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ghillbert has 20 years experience as a MSN, NP and specializes in CTICU.

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they have contracts w/ Phillipino nurses they can pay like $8/hr and give "room and board" to. The owners of this hosp live out of state, and you can bet they report only to the shareholders.

Sorry, but that's rubbish. There is a requirement for a LCA and "prevailing wage" certification that specifically prohibits such practices. Employers must prove that they are paying the SAME to foreign nurses as they are to locals AND that they have advertised and not been able to hire locals before they are allowed to get visas.

I don't know why I bother posting in these threads - the emotion, xenophobia and inaccuracies are a constant, while facts are a scarce commodity.

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RN1982 specializes in ICU/Critical Care.

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No one is being xenophobic. Look at the economy. People are going into nursing because they lost their job and when they graduate they find out they can't get hired because a hospital is more willing to pay to have nurses brought in. I would be upset too.

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TurnLeftSide, with all due respect you are missing the core of the problem.

Hospitals prefer first-coursers to second coursers unofficially.

Hospitals hire overseas for reasons that you would be surprised by.. things that are technically not legitimate in the USA but when dealing with patient relationships do matter.

Hospitals DO NOT save money by hiring overseas. In fact they may be spending more.

Look into WHY hospitals choose to hire overseas and you'll see the answer as to exactly how US nursing schools can improve/change to meet the demands of hospitals.

This is why the only legislation that I support are those which offer a solution for both foreign AND domestic nurses.

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RN1982 specializes in ICU/Critical Care.

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Well, what are the reasons? Is it the education that students receive here?

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Hospitals hire overseas for reasons that you would be surprised by.. things that are technically not legitimate in the USA but when dealing with patient relationships do matter.

Please elaborate on this. Specifically, the "technically not legitimate" part. I do not see why the solution would be to enable hospitals to continue to do this, or let them get away with it.

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Please see my previous post.. I think it outlines everything pretty clearly.

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Please elaborate on this. Specifically, the "technically not legitimate" part. I do not see why the solution would be to enable hospitals to continue to do this, or let them get away with it.

Technically not legitimate because in the USA it would be classified as discrimination on the basis of ethnicity.

In fact it is not, because it is on the basis of the difference of the way nurses treat patients but those lines happen to also be drawn across political, and thereby, ethnic boundaries.

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FireStarterRN has 15 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

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I would be happy to have you tell the news about my phone call to Swedish. They admitted on the phone to me that they were recruitng new grads, when there are hundreds on new American grads who cannot find work, this in a town with what is probabley one of the finest colleges of nursing in America, "University of Washington", and lets not forget, "Seattle University". JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

PS: Washington nurses- I have written a "Letter to the Editor", about what is going on at Deaconess Medical Center here in Spokane. It should be in the paper tomorrow. For those of you who are not in Washington, The paper is the "Spokesman Review", and you can get it on line. It is about the new owners of Deaconess, who are trying to bust the union, and are only taking away everything that they already have, etc. It is ugly. I have a thread about it in the Nursing Activism thread. I will post my letter if you want to read it. Let me know. Send me a PM. Thanks.

I'll email him via the website. If you PM me I'll give him your email.

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caycay specializes in CVOR, General OR.

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We have this news from our hospital that they'll get rid of traveler nurses at the end of May. Our manager offered them a position but neither of them accepted those positions because of their own personal reasons. There were even one of them who accepted a position out of the country due to the fact that she can get free housing and only a year contract. They are US nurses. No nurses will fill their position unless they wanted to be employed in our hospital.My hospital is freeze hiring right now. I am a foreign OR nurse. I came here in the US because my husband petition me here. When I got hired, my manager told me that they hired nurses from my country. I asked her why the fact that I know there are lots of new US graduates who need jobs here. She said there were a bunch of those US nurses who are undergoing consortium training right now but they still cannot fill the vacancies once they can hire people again. There are also nurses who will be retiring soon.

I do agree that hospital should prioritize US nurses first. Neither I'm against of impoting nurses here but my only suggestion is to have some experience(please) in your own country before coming here. Thats the reason why there are negative feedbacks from here because some just took NCLEX and come here without any experience. One thing, USCIS does not give working or H1B visas right now because of the recession.

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This mentality of American jobs for American nurses is all well and good, but venting anger towards overseas nurses is not going to solve the problem.

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NRSKarenRN has 40 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

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