FCCJ SPRING 2010 - page 64

I know it is a little early, but anyone plan on applying for FCCJ's spring 2010 program?? If I can get my Nat points up and if I do well in Micro this summer , I will be ready to... Read More

  1. by   RNMee
    I persoanlly don't have a problem with the diveristy program. I have problems with the individuals taking advantage of finacial assistance. If you need it , you need it. And beleive me I used a ton of grants to get thorugh my undergrad. But I also worked, and was poor. Shopped at walmart and had the ugliest, oldest cell phone ever.

    When I see people getting everything paid for that don't have kids, have HUGE diamonds on their fingers , and are toting a Coach bag ,driving a brand new car, I get frustrated. I think that help should be given where help is needed. I over heard someone saying they scammed the sytem to get more FA than they should. This to me is a MUCH a bigger issue than the diversity program. That program is trying to do good. Whether or not if it's valid isn't for me to decide. I don't know the status of the minorities in JAX. Some studies must have shown that there was need to have it.
  2. by   misswhitney
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    Ok and the people in the DIVERSITY PROGRAM HAD HIGH POINTS TOO! so whats your point?!? And a several got in the REGULAR WAY!
    Calm down guys! Let's not get things out of hand. Goodness, did not mean to start a fight!

    But we are not condoning those who got in the regular way. They deserve to be there because they got in without any special treatment. I am disappointed in our state for funding such a program, and I can see why FSCJ would accept such a program (if someone gave me a million dollars to do reverse racism, I would jump on it!) If it was a primary black program, would priority go to whites the same way? Those who had high enough points to get in after the fact, still deserve to be there because they were next in line. I don't care if the people in the diversity program had high points; if they did not get in the regular way, why should they get special treatment? That is our argument. I am not racist nor a feminist but I still don't see how it is fair. True, we still take the same test, but that still does not make it fair that someone who was a white female who may have gotten in had it not been for this program. She should have the same chance as everyone else. And I don't see how secluding them into their own part of the program is helpful either. Like I said, oh well. There is not much anyone can do and arguing about it is not gonna get us anywhere. Like ChiCookie always tells me, We nurses have to stick together. And ladies and gentlemen, we need to stick together, regardless of our stand on this issue. Especially during this crazy economy.
  3. by   FutureRNMom
    You are acting like these individuals got in by being way off of the cutoff points! They were NOT! Its not liked they picked people who had 170s they are in a separate part of the program and they have to do additional stuff that the people in the regular program are not obligated to do! I know couple males and females and that program who had 3.5 or higher gpa's! They are not handing out their degree they have to work as hard as we do to graduate from the program!
  4. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    Ok and the people in the DIVERSITY PROGRAM HAD HIGH POINTS TOO! so whats your point?!? And a several got in the REGULAR WAY!
    It is not a matter of getting "high points"! It is a matter of whether you had enough points to make the cutoff! 192 is high points, but the cutoff for spring of '10 was 193 and anyone below that didn't get in! It was a high number of points but not high enough. And there are plently of white females who had "high points" or "just missed the cutoff". Where is there special program???? Oh wait, thats right, there ISN'T ONE. And so what if some got in the regular way. That is the only way there should be to get in! Everyone that gets in needs to get in the regular way. That is the only way it is fair
  5. by   FutureRNMom
    If you are a white and go to an ALL black school you do get special fundings and placement so is that fair?!? Another thing the diversity program is trying to encourage minorities to get a degree do you know the statistics on minorities w/ degree???? Nothing compares to white counterparts! I think the program will be beneficial to the minority community!
  6. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from misswhitney
    Calm down guys! Let's not get things out of hand. Goodness, did not mean to start a fight!

    But we are not condoning those who got in the regular way. They deserve to be there because they got in without any special treatment. I am disappointed in our state for funding such a program, and I can see why FSCJ would accept such a program (if someone gave me a million dollars to do reverse racism, I would jump on it!) If it was a primary black program, would priority go to whites the same way? Those who had high enough points to get in after the fact, still deserve to be there because they were next in line. I don't care if the people in the diversity program had high points; if they did not get in the regular way, why should they get special treatment? That is our argument. I am not racist nor a feminist but I still don't see how it is fair. True, we still take the same test, but that still does not make it fair that someone who was a white female who may have gotten in had it not been for this program. She should have the same chance as everyone else. And I don't see how secluding them into their own part of the program is helpful either. Like I said, oh well. There is not much anyone can do and arguing about it is not gonna get us anywhere. Like ChiCookie always tells me, We nurses have to stick together. And ladies and gentlemen, we need to stick together, regardless of our stand on this issue. Especially during this crazy economy.
    Absa-freakin'-lutly! The more I think about this the angrier I get. This is PREJUDICED at its finest. You are totally right. If this was a black school, whites would not be given any other chances for entrance. Everyone should be held to the same standard. Just because your points were high doesn't mean you deserve to get treated specially! If you didn't get accepted, there is a reason. YOUR POINTS/GRADES WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH
  7. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    If you are a white and go to an ALL black school you do get special fundings and placement so is that fair?!? Another thing the diversity program is trying to encourage minorities to get a degree do you know the statistics on minorities w/ degree???? Nothing compares to white counterparts! I think the program will be beneficial to the minority community!
    Im sorry but it is not my fault or problem if people of non-white races have low statistics as far as getting a degree. If they need to be encouraged to get a degree, then encourage them! Don't give them special treatment. An I have never in my entire life heard of white people getting special funding at a primary black school.
  8. by   FutureRNMom
    Well no matter how many times you complain about it's not going to change it! Nursing is a predominant white female field and the stats of Northeast prove it! That's why the program was established! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion! If you don't like oh well life goes on!
  9. by   FutureRNMom
    AT ALL BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IF YOU ARE NOT BLACK YOU ARE CONSIDERED A MINORITY AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL SCHOLARSHIPS THAT PAY FOR THERE TUITION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY ARE THERE! I have several friends who are white and they attend FAMU and BCU and they get special consideration since they are a minority in the college
  10. by   K nurse-one-day
    Well there are job fields that are dominated by other races and by males but there are no special programs for those. And if there is, there shouldn't be. If I get "high points" and don't get accepted, there is no diversity program to help me out. Its the regular way or no way for me, and thats how it should be for everyone. It doesn't matter if your points are comparability high or not. If they are not high enough for the cutoff, then they are not high enough for nursing school
  11. by   misswhitney
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    AT ALL BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IF YOU ARE NOT BLACK YOU ARE CONSIDERED A MINORITY AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL SCHOLARSHIPS THAT PAY FOR THERE TUITION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY ARE THERE! I have several friends who are white and they attend FAMU and BCU and they get special consideration since they are a minority in the college

    We aren't talking about scholarships though, we are talking about admittance to a highly competitive program. Scholarships have every right to be selective as to who gets them, but an entire program?
  12. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    AT ALL BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IF YOU ARE NOT BLACK YOU ARE CONSIDERED A MINORITY AND THEY HAVE SEVERAL SCHOLARSHIPS THAT PAY FOR THERE TUITION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY ARE THERE! I have several friends who are white and they attend FAMU and BCU and they get special consideration since they are a minority in the college
    My point was that anyone getting special treatment for anything, school, scholarships, whatever, because of their race or gender, whether they are black, white, purple, or have 3 heads, is wrong....just my opinion
  13. by   FutureRNMom
    Oh well can't change it and I have better things to do like preparing for my tests and taking care of my family, and the pharmacy program is competitve at FAMU and they have a something similar to fscj diversity program except reversed females and minority( other than black) males! I got in the program so I am happy end of story!

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