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extra nursing test dropped

new law designed to address future shortages in state

june 15, 2007

by catherine ho

free press business writer

foreign-trained nurses no longer will have to pass an additional exam to work in michigan, in accordance with a bill signed by gov. jennifer granholm on thursday.

the new law removes the requirement for nurses who graduated from nursing schools outside the united states to pass a test in addition to the licensing exam given to nurses trained in this country.

the lifting of the requirement, which most nurses say was costly and burdensome, could help alleviate the projected nursing shortage in michigan hospitals by bringing hundreds or even thousands of foreign-trained nurses into the state health care system.

"we have a health care sector that's growing," said rep. hoon-yung hopgood, d-taylor, who sponsored the bill. "demand is growing and will continue to grow. we also have a nursing shortage, and it's going to be increasingly more significant, so this is a way to help us."

michigan is expected to have a shortage of 7,000 nurses by 2010 and 18,000 by 2015, according to the michigan department of labor and economic growth.

the majority of foreign-trained nurses in michigan come from the philippines, said jeanette klemczak, chief nurse executive for the state.

"it's one of the solutions for the nursing shortage," said remedios solarte, a nurse practitioner and emeritus professor of nursing at oakland community college. "this will probably bring nurses into michigan, and will affect not only filipino nurses but all foreign graduates like indians, arab americans, chinese, korean," she said.

removing the burden of an additional test sends the message that michigan welcomes foreign-trained nurses, klemczak said.

"it says to foreign-trained nurses that michigan is a nurse-friendly state and we've done all we can to facilitate their ability to come here and practice," she said.

michigan is now among 22 states that have removed the requirement for foreign-trained nurses to pass the commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools as a prerequisite to the national council licensure examination for registered nurses -- the exam all nursing school graduates must pass the before practicing in the united states.

the foreign exam tests much of the same knowledge as the national exam, which makes it redundant, some nurses say. moreover, the test is not offered in every country, making it difficult for some foreign-trained nurses to take it, hopgood said.

the exam is also a financial burden, said van s. ong, a nurse manager in the department of emergency medicine at the henry ford health system. in the philippines, for instance, nursing graduates had to pay $375 to register for the test, he said.

the new law requires graduates of foreign nursing schools to provide verification that the training they received outside the united states is equivalent to the training received in michigan nursing schools.

"this in no way changes any of our issues around quality of nurses or the safety to practice," klemczak said. "all it does is eliminate a redundancy exam."

contact catherine ho at cho@freepress.com.

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madwife2002 has 26 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in RN, BSN, CHDN.

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I am sure this is going to generate a big response from our posters

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Aquarian specializes in NVICU, NSICU.

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NCLEX is still a requirement (of course!). It's the CGFNS exam that's been dropped. Many states have actually been doing this for years, i.e. VT, NM, NY (just the CVS), even NJ (just the CES), etc. You can verify the actual licensure requirements in the Michigan Board of Nursing website.

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scattycarrot has 10 years experience and specializes in ITU/Emergency.

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As Aquarian said, this is nothing new and there is really no need to get upset about it as these foreign nurses still have to pass the NCLEX-RN. They cannot practice without that. This measure simply cuts out one of the steps of the licencing process which includes verification of their training to ensure it meets US requirements. Foreign nurses don't just rock up with a piece of paper declaring them as an RN and say 'let me in'. Its actually hard to get licenced in the states. The RN has to prove that he or she has the correct education including the same amount of clinical and theory hours as an American eductated RN and then they have to pass the NCLEX and if they are from a non-English speaking country, they have to pass English exams. This won't open any floodgates for less educated foreign nurses entering the country. I am UK trained with a bachelors and the process of getting my licence with the Florida BON (and no, I don't have to take the CGFN's exam) is long and convoluted and is going to take at least a year and only be successful if I am approved to take the NCLEX and then pass the same exam that US nurses have to take!

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NCLEX is still a requirement (of course!). It's the CGFNS exam that's been dropped. Many states have actually been doing this for years, i.e. VT, NM, NY (just the CVS), even NJ (just the CES), etc. You can verify the actual licensure requirements in the Michigan Board of Nursing website.

I have been reading in the papers, that there is/will be a shortage of physicians in this country in the near future, and many areas of the country already have a shortage of physicians. Especially in rural and inner city areas.

Now I ask you, is the AMA reducing the licensing requirements for physicians to enter this country to work? If not, then why? Is it not just as important to have nurses who have met the same educational requirements as physicians? Especially since so many of these foreign physicians and nurses speak with such heavy accents, it is almost impossible to understand them. I have no idea how elderly patients, and nursing home residents can understand them when they are hard of hearing in the first place, and have difficulty understand natural born American health care workers. JMHO, and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

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I think it's a stupid idea to bring nurses from other countries. What if we have terrorist who become nurses, just to come here and plot another 9/11??? And not to be mean, but I have a problem with nurses who don't speak English very well. When I had surgery, my nurses could not speak Englsih very well, and it was difficult to communicate with them. That made it worse than my pain! I think this is a stupid idea, and we will be left with out a job!

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norcalRNstudent has 1 years experience and specializes in ER.

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I think it's a stupid idea to bring nurses from other countries. What if we have terrorist who become nurses, just to come here and plot another 9/11???

I'm pretty sure that terrorists aren't coming to this country disguised as nurses...Certainly we have bigger things to worry about?

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I think it's a stupid idea to bring nurses from other countries. What if we have terrorist who become nurses, just to come here and plot another 9/11???

Oh please! Come on, get real!

Let me ask you this......do you realise how much screening a foreign nurse has to go through to get into the US?

So you're suggesting someone would go through 3 years nursing education, then go through all that is required for immigration...police/security checks, family background checks, fingerprints, applying and studying for NCLEX..oh I could go on, but I won't...all so they could get into the US to plot another 9/11?? When all they have to do is fly to Mexico and walk over the border?

Think about it :idea:

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Ouch! I had to remediate a foreign nurse who did not pass our hospital med/math test. She could not use the PDR or other drug reference book available and took >2 hrs to answer 20 questions. Got most incorrect because she was not familiar with the names and did not know how to calculate IV drips. Scary. We did not hire her

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Silverdragon102 has 30 years experience as a BSN and specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

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nothing else to add. It is a hard process to move to the US with meeting requirements and please think about the melding of various pots which gives nursing such a good diversity.

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Some "shortage" in Michigan...thats why I am on a travel assignment in Minnesota as I couldn't find a job in my area of nursing. This will only make it even harder for me to remain back home with family and friends.

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Being from michigan and currently working in michigan, the only shortage i've seen is in the detroit area. Even so, there doesn't seem to be much of a shortage there either, probably because they pay better.

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