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Ok, just got an update from a friend of mine who has been in contact with the CABRN. They have confirmed that Excelsior graduates who graduated after the cut off date can not only NOT apply for initial licensure, nor can they even apply for endorsement. They are flat out denying everybody because of the lack of clinical experience concurrent with theory. Even if you have worked as a RN in another state with sufficient experience, they wont even look at the application. But they will surely take your money just to deny you. For those of you who are lucky enough to live in a state that accepts the education, count your blessings as you are truely blessed to have Excelsior as an option. Unfortunately not all of us are lucky. Good Luck to all!

I am so sorry you have to even stress over this. Your situation is worse than mine. You actually got through the phone lines? I did not even get an answer so I had to email them. They seemed to have no compassion for people in our situation. Can I ask you how are you going to be able to complete a CA approved ADN program when you already have an ADN? They will not accept you.

Not only do I have my ADN, but I am almost finished with my BSN at Excelsior! Fortunately for me, I have a good paying non-nursing job. When I enrolled in EC California would let you endorse in from another state as long as you have 6-12 months acute care experience. I have lived in California all my life and EC was the only program that worked with my home and work schedule. I am currently licensed in Neveda and commute to Reno to work 1 day a week as an RN. So unless the California BRN changes their policy on this matter, I am rather out of luck. I have been trying to get on with the VA or Federal but so far no luck there either. It is very frustrating to say the least. Excelsior is a good program! You have to be compotent to pass the CPNE. I wish I had better news for you! Good luck with you education and your move to California.

Robin

It seems to me that a lot of people are affected by the BRNs cruel decision regarding Excelsior. It just floors me that it has to be this way. I noticed that NY doesn't accept Indiana State University which is an LVN-BSN program. So it makes me if this is some sort of game between states.

I believe it is a political game with CA and Excelsior. I did not know that ISU was not accepted in NY. Why? Is it because they have clinicals concurrent with theory?

Specializes in ED.

Ny rules and regulation as are completely separate from CA rules and regulations. NY does not have the same clause of clinicals concurrent with theory.

Each state has a right to have their rules and regulations but what right does one state have to tell another state how to conduct their nursing program? If the program is accredited through NLNAC or CCNE and has won several awards for their excellent nursing program should be allowed to sit for NCLEX or endorsement. I can understand if the school is unaccredited through its own state that CA would not allow for initial licensure or for endorsment. But when the school is fully accredited come on come up with a better excuse.

Specializes in ED.

No state has the right to go across other state lines and tell them how to conduct their programs. However they have a right to make regulations regarding what is required for those who desire to practice in their state. As a california EC student I am willing to move elsewhere for employment and then if I choose to come back to CA, I will do what I need to try to secure employment at a VA or Military installation. I understand those jobs are difficult to come by even with experience, but there are options. There is no use arguing or reviving multiple old threads regarding the same issue.

The definitive answer is that at this time in CA you can request licensure in CA as an Excelsior grad. The BRN will consider it, but has the right to refuse you as they have publicly announced that they will not license Excelsior grads who did not make the cut off date. There are rumors that with 1,000 hours experience you can get licensed, but they refuse to provide information in writing validating that is what is required.

Therefore, it is an individual decision to attend Excelsior and you are risking not being licensed. You can try to do a LVN to RN program at an institution in CA or do ISU, but that has it's own restrictions in other states.

Good luck on whatever you may choose.

For those of you considering Excelsior College, as I am, here is some interesting information on the NYSED.GOV site (Excelsior College is located, in New York)...

Pass Rates 2010: 81.6%, 2009: 84.7%, 2008: 85.7%

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/nurse/nurseprogs-nclexrn2008-12.htm#AssocProg

There is also a list of additional requirements that some states require if you complete the ADN program thru Excelsior: http://www.excelsior.edu/state-board-requirements

I am a Missouri resident and do not have any other requirements (as I noticed some states require such as CA). I also contacted the Mo. State Board of Nursing to verify they will allow me to take the boards if I complete my bridge via Excelsior (yes, they do).

And, per the Excelsior web site: The associate, bachelor's, and master's degree programs in nursing at Excelsior College are accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC).

Yup, I already researched that and found those interesting facts. They have good pass rates and are accredited but yet some states have issues.

That is just so unfair!!!!!! I am sorry for all of you guys who have to jump through all those st*pid hoops to get your license! Why are they making it sooo difficult? I am so glad that Oregon accepts EC and don't have a problem with it! Good luck to you all. Hope things work out for the best!

it seems to me that a lot of people are affected by the brns cruel decision regarding excelsior. it just floors me that it has to be this way. i noticed that ny doesn't accept indiana state university which is an lvn-bsn program. so it makes me if this is some sort of game between states.

fair warning, here in california, the brn will not accept indiana state university bridge program either. they were making a big stink over this a couple years ago, that people could be out a lot of money with no rn license to show for it.

i'll so glad i'm getting my initial license here in california, that way they will always have to accept my license if i move back in a couple of years. i currently plan to move to my first nurse job anyway that excepts me. i'm so glad i came into nursing relatively young, when i still have the option to move as needed.

as for the charge that it is unfair that california doesn't accept excelsior, welcome to life. life is not fair. more states then not accept excelsior. you will just have to pratice nursing in a state that does accept it.

As for the charge that it is unfair that California doesn't accept Excelsior, welcome to life. Life is not fair. More States then not accept Excelsior. You will just have to practice nursing in a State that does accept it.

One should never be complacent with tyranny, especially with our governing boards. One must be careful lest "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." Alexander Hamilton

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