2022 Elections

[Beerman]

“Today we really proved that socialism wins,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-endorsed Kirsten Gonzalez crowed after winning an open race to represent a district covering parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan."

https://nypost.com/2022/08/23/socialist-left-swamps-democratic-centrist-challengers-in-ny-state-senate-primaries/

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I wonder who believes that McCarthy and his fealty to Trump will be a good and principled leader for Republicans. 

 He seems the likely choice but the "Freedom Caucus" of Trump loyalists are apparently blaming him for Republicans lack of the predicted red wave and at the moment doesn't have enough votes to get the gavel.  

But McCarthy is a seasoned professional at the top of his game.  My bet is on him.

 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kevin-mccarthys-bid-house-speaker-jeopardy-rcna56647

 

[Beerman, BSN]

On 11/12/2022 at 6:21 PM, Tweety said:

The article you said you quoted from about DeSantis is fresh on my mind when I mentioned that Trumpism is alive and well. So interesting you'd refer to an article praising DeSantis as the "new champion of Trumpism" not knowing what Trumpism is.   To quote the article you said you were referring to:  

https://unherd.com/thepost/ron-desantis-the-new-champion-of-trumpism/

That being said there probably isn't a consensus as to what it means, and yes,  people spit it out as an insult.  I did not.  To me it's more of a Trump-style of politics...low taxes, overly concerned about the border, not overly concerned about the truth, very distrustful of mainstream media...for starters.  

The term was coined during his presidency and has been discussed ad nauseam.  It even has it's own Wikipedia 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

I think I can agree with the main point of the article but still not understand what people mean by ""Trumpism".  

The term has been used ad nauseam.  But, the actual meaning of it?  IDK.  Even the wikipedia article you referenced isn't very specific.  And, your example of low taxes, border security, and distrust of the media isn't very specific to Trump.  Or, even conservatives. And, I wouldn't say DeSantis is not concerned the the truth.

Imo, it's a term thrown out a lot that doesn't really have much meaning.

 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

7 hours ago, Beerman said:

I think I can agree with the main point of the article but still not understand what people mean by ""Trumpism".  

The term has been used ad nauseam.  But, the actual meaning of it?  IDK.  Even the wikipedia article you referenced isn't very specific.  And, your example of low taxes, border security, and distrust of the media isn't very specific to Trump.  Or, even conservatives. And, I wouldn't say DeSantis is not concerned the the truth.

Imo, it's a term thrown out a lot that doesn't really have much meaning.

 

Fair enough, you're entitled to share how you feel.

  I did acknowledge the there doesn't seem to be a consensus about what "Trumpism" is you're right that people throw out things without thought.  I do think the generally positive article about DeSantis you used didn't use it in a derogatory manner and neither did I.  She and I both had our own idea as to what it means to us personally and it wasn't without thought.

I like DeSantis more than I'll ever like Trump and I could tolerate him as President.  When I think of him as "Trumpism" he delivers it in a much better manner, but he stood by city officials making false vaccine claims.  His Politfact fact check is full of his falsehoods.  Not that he's any different from others, he's a politician after all.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=ron-desantis

He also is fostering distrust in the media.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3678541-desantis-steps-up-attacks-on-media/

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

Who runs the state of Arizona really doesn't matter much to my day to day life but I was very happy to see the Republican that believed Trump won the election lose.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/14/politics/katie-hobbs-arizona-governors-race/index.html

[Beerman, BSN]

On 11/11/2022 at 4:46 PM, NRSKarenRN said:

UGHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... sticking his foot in his mouth.

Please pick another Republican for 2024. MD Governor Larry Hogan thinking of entering race, appears to know how to GOVERN.

DOJ where are you with Jan 6th investigation???---- as Trump making BIGGIE Announcement Tuesday, same day Pence new book comes out.

 

 

 

 

 

I spent some a lot of time in Maryland last Winter.  A liberal friend I met said "he does a good job for a Republican", and that "he's reasonable".  He has had great approval ratings throughout his term.

[coffeeandlove, ASN]

is it allowed to be a conservative on this site ?

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

1 hour ago, coffeeandlove said:

is it allowed to be a conservative on this site ?

Yes.  Understand that if you post conservative stuff there will be clapback and discussion.  That's why these forums exist.

Currently it's dominated by liberals but not because conservatives aren't allowed.  There used to be a whole lot more conservatives especially when Obama was president.  Trump being elected for some reason seemed to trigger many of them to stop posting although I'm not sure why.  

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

Nancy Pelosi ends ~ 20 year career as Democratic Leader, will remain as House Representative. Steny Hoyer also announced not seeking Democratic caucus leadership post.   Hakeem Jeffries has been visible + being groomed to run for leadership. 

CNN  11/17/2022

Pelosi announces she will not run for leadership post after GOP wins House

Nancy Pelosi has shown strong leadership-- glad she was there on 1/6/2020 and captured on video for posterity her efforts to quell Capital riot.

BACKBONE demonstrated here:

 

Who do you think will be Dem's top leadership in 2023?

[toomuchbaloney]

17 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Nancy Pelosi ends ~ 20 year career as Democratic Leader, will remain as House Representative. Steny Hoyer also announced not seeking Democratic caucus leadership post.   Hakeem Jeffries has been visible + being groomed to run for leadership. 

CNN  11/17/2022

Pelosi announces she will not run for leadership post after GOP wins House

Nancy Pelosi has shown strong leadership-- glad she was there on 1/6/2020 and captured on video for posterity her efforts to quell Capital riot.

Who do you think will be Dem's top leadership in 2023?

Pelosi has been a SOTH of historical consequence.  Her leadership and consensus building skills are impressive.    Jeffries is a good choice to follow her.  The liberal caucuses will have a tough job if the extremists run the show for the GOP House leadership. McCarthy isn't exactly an example of principled and consistency in his leadership roles. 

[coffeeandlove, ASN]

On 11/16/2022 at 7:18 AM, Tweety said:

Yes.  Understand that if you post conservative stuff there will be clapback and discussion.  That's why these forums exist.

Currently it's dominated by liberals but not because conservatives aren't allowed.  There used to be a whole lot more conservatives especially when Obama was president.  Trump being elected for some reason seemed to trigger many of them to stop posting although I'm not sure why.  

oh probably due to censorship. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

5 hours ago, coffeeandlove said:

oh probably due to censorship. 

No.  

They posted many times a day and weren't censored and just moved on. I've been posting here nearly 20 years.  People come and they go.  There have been times when conservatives dominated  especially when Obama was elected.  One of them, Timothy, was a Tea Party Republican, a nurse, but actually ran for political office.  He lost and we disagreed vehemently but he was never censored and I like how he put actions into his beliefs by running for office.  He lost.

I can't think of at least two posters that posted several times a day that stopped suddenedlly when Trump was elected.  They weren't censored.

The table's turned now and liberals dominate.  It happens.

We are not censored here for political or conservative beliefs.  We are censored for profanity and personal attacks. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

The next two  in line by seniority are in their 80's and decided to not run (thankfully) and one of them, can't remember who right now endorsed Hakeem Jeffries whom is in his young 50's.

Pelosi steps down at the height of her career and am glad that she's passing that leadership on.  I'll never forget the look of sheer joy and accomplishment when she took the gavel during the Trump administration (whom she did not mention in her speech).