2022 Elections

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“Today we really proved that socialism wins,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-endorsed Kirsten Gonzalez crowed after winning an open race to represent a district covering parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan."

https://nypost.com/2022/08/23/socialist-left-swamps-democratic-centrist-challengers-in-ny-state-senate-primaries/

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Philadelphia Inquirer 11/10/2022

‘It’s time for him to retire’: Some Pa. Republicans want to push Trump aside after their election losses

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...“If anything should be taken away from this election, it’s that we should be over Trump. If you’re not a Never Trumper yet, you should be an Over-Trumper now,” said Matthew Brouillette, the head of Commonwealth Partners, an influential conservative group in the state. “He had his moment in the sun for four years, and it’s time for him to retire from politics.”

Josh Novotney, a Republican operative in Philadelphia, said there’s been widespread blame on Trump within GOP circles after the party lost marquee races for governor and U.S. Senate, all three of the state’s competitive U.S. House races, and possibly the state House.

Trump’s presence, several Republican leaders said, continues to motivate Democrats, and his endorsements have elevated flawed candidates who fit his personal piques....

 

 

PA state house now +1 Democrat  ---- Republicans lost ELEVEN seats for first time in years.

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14 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Philadelphia Inquirer 11/10/2022

‘It’s time for him to retire’: Some Pa. Republicans want to push Trump aside after their election losses

PA state house now +1 Democrat  ---- Republicans lost ELEVEN seats for first time in years.

I'll say again,  the GOP should dump Trump, acknowledge that he's poisoned conservative politics and join in the effort to hold him accountable for his crimes.  The GOP should stop defending Trump in order to appease his angry and irrational voting base... they aren't a large enough block to get Republicans elected across the country and the messaging required to appease them is toxic and off putting to the majority of Americans. Republicans should stop making excuses for right wing extremism and get back to conservative politics.

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I'll say again,  the GOP should dump Trump, acknowledge that he's poisoned conservative politics and join in the effort to hold him accountable for his crimes.  The GOP should stop defending Trump in order to appease his angry and irrational voting base... they aren't a large enough block to get Republicans elected across the country and the messaging required to appease them is toxic and off putting to the majority of Americans. Republicans should stop making excuses for right wing extremism and get back to conservative politics.

Disagree.  The problem is they are a large voting block and Republicans need them.   Obviously I think they are dwindling some.  I think Tumpism is  here for a while even if they succeed in dumping him.  

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3 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Disagree.  The problem is they are a large voting block and Republicans need them.   Obviously I think they are dwindling some.  I think Tumpisn is  here for a while even if they succeed in dumping him.

Definitely the MAGA movement will be here for a spell, but don't you think that this election was a rejection of that bit of extremism in favor of more traditional conservatism?

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Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

Definitely the MAGA movement will be here for a spell, but don't you think that this election was a rejection of that bit of extremism in favor of more traditional conservatism?

No, because those people would not vote Democrat even if they rejected Trump.  Independent and undecided were underestimated.

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28 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Disagree.  The problem is they are a large voting block and Republicans need them.   Obviously I think they are dwindling some.  I think Tumpism is  here for a while even if they succeed in dumping him.  

Exactly.  They can't simply "dump Trump".  I'm not even exactly sure what that, or Trumpism, means.  Many on the anti-Trump side seem to through out these terms, without a consensus on what they mean.  The recent "MAGAphile" discussion, as juvenile as it is, is a good example.

Anyway, while many are ready to move on, a majority of his endorsed candidates did win.  Even if the focus is on a few high profile ones that lost.

The Repiblicans wouldn't be smart to turn off his most ardent supporters. 

 

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

No, because those people would not vote Democrat even if they rejected Trump.  Independent and undecided were underestimated.

I don't mean rejection by that group of MAGAPHILES, I mean rejection by independent and unaffiliated voters, like myself.  We aren't traditionally afraid to vote a split ballot. 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Exactly.  They can't simply "dump Trump".  I'm not even exactly sure what that, or Trumpism, means.  Many on the anti-Trump side seem to through out these terms, without a consensus on what they mean.  The recent "MAGAphile" discussion, as juvenile as it is, is a good example.

Anyway, while many are ready to move on, a majority of his endorsed candidates did win.  Even if the focus is on a few high profile ones that lost.

The Repiblicans wouldn't be smart to turn off his most ardent supporters. 

 

Do you want us to explain what it would mean for the GOP to dump Trump? There is a consensus here as to what MAGAphile means, there was a discussion and those of us who employ the term to spare the feelings of Republicans who do not support Trump are in agreement. .. it's unfortunate that you've forgotten already.

Yep... it looks like a many as 160 or so of the nearly 300 Trump endorsed election lie spreaders won their seats.  

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

I'm not even exactly sure what that, or Trumpism, means.

The article you said you quoted from about DeSantis is fresh on my mind when I mentioned that Trumpism is alive and well. So interesting you'd refer to an article praising DeSantis as the "new champion of Trumpism" not knowing what Trumpism is.   To quote the article you said you were referring to:  

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But the real lesson of the 2022 midterm elections is slightly different: Trump might be over, but Trumpism had a great night. Trump the man is simply no longer the conduit of his own legacy.

https://unherd.com/thepost/ron-desantis-the-new-champion-of-trumpism/

That being said there probably isn't a consensus as to what it means, and yes,  people spit it out as an insult.  I did not.  To me it's more of a Trump-style of politics...low taxes, overly concerned about the border, not overly concerned about the truth, very distrustful of mainstream media...for starters.  

The term was coined during his presidency and has been discussed ad nauseam.  It even has it's own Wikipedia 

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Trumpism is a term for the political ideologies, social emotions, style of governance,[7] political movement, and set of mechanisms for acquiring and keeping control of power associated with Donald Trump and his political base.[8][9]Trumpists and Trumpian are terms used to refer to those exhibiting characteristics of Trumpism, whereas political supporters of Trump are known as Trumpers.

The precise composition of Trumpism is contentious and is sufficiently complex to overwhelm any single framework of analysis;[10] it has been called an American political variant of the far-right,[11][12] and the national-populist and neo-nationalist sentiment seen in multiple nations worldwide from the late 2010s[13] to the early 2020s. Though not strictly limited to any one party, Trump supporters became a significant faction of the Republican Party in the United States, with the remainder often characterized as "establishment" in contrast. Some Republicans became members of the Never Trump movement, with several leaving the party in protest of Trump's ascendancy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

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On 11/9/2022 at 11:50 AM, Weetywill said:

I feel that his medical status is not appropriate for his position.I feel this position put his health at a greater risk.  But apparently the voters don't. That's democracy! 

What is your professional rationale for that statement? Not sure what your nursing specialty is, but you claim 9 years of experience. Lay out your diagnosis and evaluation. Go medical model as I was an er nurse, so that’s how I think. 

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12 hours ago, Tweety said:

The article you said you quoted from about DeSantis is fresh on my mind when I mentioned that Trumpism is alive and well. So interesting you'd refer to an article praising DeSantis as the "new champion of Trumpism" not knowing what Trumpism is.   To quote the article you said you were referring to:  

https://unherd.com/thepost/ron-desantis-the-new-champion-of-trumpism/

That being said there probably isn't a consensus as to what it means, and yes,  people spit it out as an insult.  I did not.  To me it's more of a Trump-style of politics...low taxes, overly concerned about the border, not overly concerned about the truth, very distrustful of mainstream media...for starters.  

The term was coined during his presidency and has been discussed ad nauseam.  It even has it's own Wikipedia 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

You did a good job of addressing that insincere comment. 

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/13/us/election-results-news/heres-the-latest-on-the-election-results?smid=url-share

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Democrats retained control of the Senate on Saturday with the victory of Senator Catherine Cortez Masto in Nevada, accomplishing what had once appeared to be a heavy lift because of high inflation, fear of crime and President Biden’s weak job approval ratings.

Ms. Cortez Masto, the first Latina elected to the Senate, pulled ahead of Adam Laxalt, the Trump-endorsed former Nevada attorney general, as mail ballots, many from Clark County, broke in her favor.

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Republicans were dealt another blow on Saturday night when Jim Marchant, who helped organize a national slate of Trump-aligned candidates aiming to take over state election systems, lost Nevada’s race for secretary of state to Cisco Aguilar, a Democrat. The result meant that every election denier hoping to run future elections in a major battleground state has been defeated.

Here’s what else to know today:

Democrats captured the House seat in Washington State held by Representative Jaime Herrera Beutler, one of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Mr. Trump, after Ms. Herrera Beutler was ousted in her primary. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, a Democrat, defeated Joe Kent, an election denier, to pick up the seat for her party.

The Republican candidate for Arizona governor, Kari Lake, continued to trail her Democratic opponent, Katie Hobbs, in what has been a tight race.

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Democrats turned in the strongest midterm showing in two decades for a party holding the White House, keeping the House on such a razor’s edge that control is still up for grabs days after the polls closed.

Republicans do, however, have the upper hand in the race for control of the House, with a lead in 221 districts — more than the 218 needed to clinch the majority.

If the GOP wins the House, what will Kevin  McCarthy promise to the right wing extremists in order to attain the gavel of the Speaker? 

I wonder who believes that McCarthy and his fealty to Trump will be a good and principled leader for Republicans. 

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