Published Mar 4, 2006
Interested Party
158 Posts
'QNU has been engaged in interest based negotiations with QHealth since Sept 05 .................. QHealth has proposed a Nursing Attraction and Advancement Incentive that would achieve:
Wonder what your thoughts are on this. Some nurses whom I spoke with fears that there would be some hidden agendas. Should we be jumping up and down:lol2: with joy or tread carefully.
bethem
261 Posts
'QNU has been engaged in interest based negotiations with QHealth since Sept 05 .................. QHealth has proposed a Nursing Attraction and Advancement Incentive that would achieve:Wage increases in the first year totalling 11.5%;A total wage increase of 23% over the life of the agreement; andWage parity with NSW nurses by March 2009 (NSW is currently the leading state.)Wonder what your thoughts are on this. Some nurses whom I spoke with fears that there would be some hidden agendas. Should we be jumping up and down:lol2: with joy or tread carefully.
I think all states should be on par with NSW. I'm in NSW and I don't think that our nurses work any harder, or have harder jobs, than any other state's nurses. I say good luck to you, and I hope you get some nice dough out of it! :biggringi
I don't know enough about Qld health to comment on whether there are likely to be hidden agendas or not.
gwenith, BSN, RN
3,755 Posts
Unfortunately all I can see at the moment is the political Kudos Beattie is getting from this announcement. He has been in a lot of hot water lately over health, and rightly so, I cannot argue that the central office beaurocrats have done a WONDERFUL job at stuffing a lot of things up and the Patel affair just left everyones backsides exposed as to how long this stuff up has been going on. (I don't know about you but I have been hearing a lot of "It was better under Joe" comments lately:uhoh3: - {{{{{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}}}}} they have NO idea - this is where the culture STARTED)
Beattie needed a big rabbit to pull out of his political hat. Nice announcement but let us see the size of the allocation once it has been passed through parliment and even more - let us see the size of that budget allocation AFTER the beaurocrats have had a slice!!!
I still remember the big announcement that X million was going to employ new graduate nurses into QLD hospitals. Only what happened was 1/2 of the money went to setting up database and central health to keep track of the new grads and where they were applying to.
So call me a cynic but I ain't holding my breath............
ladybird1292
36 Posts
Just jumping in to say hi........... I would be interested to know the full details of the package, but I'm excited....it looks promising to me.
joannep
439 Posts
Gwenith, I am cynical with you. I don't think these guys believe that nurses should be be paid anymore than what we get. And that is probably too much.
Yep, I should like to see that.
Joanne
Yes, I can understand why you would be cynical about our state govt. But you know, it takes for a number of tragic things to happen before the govt would even consider pumping more money into health. And I know that all those bureaucracy exist etc ................. but I like to have some kind of trust that we will not be 'conned' . It's my weakness, I believe in giving people, even Beattie, second chance/s .................
purplemeech
10 Posts
I haven't read the fine print on EB6 so I can't really comment on it... would be interesting to know what conditions have been lost (if any) in exchange for $$, particularly for rural nurses (who got screwed around a few years ago in the NSW nurses pay rise).
As for Beattie, I still can't imagine QLD being better off under Springborg. But I must admit I am biased, having just moved from NSW and after living under frogface Carr and then Iemma, Beattie is my hero (albeit with a slightly tarnished halo at present)!
In response to Bethem's suggestion about all nurses being paid the same, I think that might be a bit too simplistic in a country as large and varied as ours. Should nurses in Sydney be paid the same as the ones in Townsville, or Broome, or Central Australia? Personally I think if we were to talk about true wage parity, it would have to be indexed against cost of living (and I'm not just talking about costs of housing for people in capital cities, but petrol costs and distances between towns/regional centres for people in the country).
karynfrances
31 Posts
looks like the time we get the final increment of this wage rise to bring us into line with the other states, they'll have headed back to the bargaining table for their next EB's and Qld nurses will be behind the pay scale again!
s1716698
28 Posts
we deserve every bit of a rise for the work we do as nurses , I feel nursing has been underpaid for to long this a proffession that is worthy of better rerenumeration, for what we do
regards s1716698