Does the shot mess with your DNA?

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3 hours ago, HRoark64 said:

None of them are infectious viruses like covid.  They are all causes of a massive number of deaths annually and have been for some time.  I'm tired of 'loss of life' being dragged into the vax conversation since we haven't been concerned with it thus far.  

* I'm with you on this. My concern is that my family members doesn't get it because my mom feeds me practically daily and I can borrow money from my dad and the grocery store and liquor store workers because I need those things. Oh! I forgot the mechanics who keeps my cars running so I can go to work and the people in Admin who keeps the hospital open. Oh, wait, now that I have thought about it, I want all the service workers and the professionals that I go to alone, to stay alive and the pilots. Fff it, let them all live! 

3 hours ago, HRoark64 said:

My question was about thoughts of the risk/reward of a vaccine for which we lack long-term data - especially if it becomes a condition of employment or requirement for travel.  I also listed several abject failures of our federal government's efforts to do right by us.  Also worth considering is that the PCR test amplification was reduced to <30 cycles right around the time the vaccine was rolled out versus the 35+ it was when testing began.  I'm not implying the numbers were inflated - I'm pointing out that if we modify an important variable at the same time as the vaccine is rolled out, it may make it difficult to discern whether reduced infections are coming from increased vaccinations or the new testing method.  

* You didn't mention the increased deaths, any thoughts on that? 

 

subee, MSN, CRNA

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired. Has 50 years experience. 4,139 Posts

19 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

I think Subee and Jacko are shaping the facts to suit their narratives. It's become very evident to me that far right wingers and conspiracy theorists etc have a problem with accepting when they are wrong, unlike us, who are ashamed to be wrong and immediately set about correcting the deficit. They appear to be so insecure that they are more ashamed of being wrong than being a fool eg masking, social distancing etc. 

For them, it's better to be dead than be thought of as stupid, which when you think about it, is the epitomy of stupidity! Apparently, it signifies weakness of some sort, which in my book is again the definition of weakness! 

Either way, it must be a natural selection thing! My Swedish Grandad always says, that a fool and his money/power is soon parted but an educated man can never have his education taken away. Don't know what your grandfather says, Macawake? How about yours GrumpyRN, my Scottish Grandad just gives the two fingers salute accompanied by 'Up Yours' ????

Can you please cite where I ever said it was better to be dead than stupid?  I actually feel sorry for stupid people because life is much harder for them. 

subee, MSN, CRNA

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13 hours ago, HRoark64 said:

 

Wow...lots of they and us speak.  How do you assess patients with your head that far up your butt?  Impressive.  

I find it interesting that the left - the primary anti-vax and pro-choice crowd - is now full force behind a vaccine and doesn't seem to acknowledge the right of anyone to refuse it.  Serious mental gymnastics.  

Before you throw out the right wing extremist, know that I'm neither.  If voting worked it would've been outlawed by now.  Your willingness to marginalize the thoughts, opinions, and questions of others will be the downfall of our society. 

Talk about "us and they"....I didn't realize that all "lefties" were anti-vaxxers!

So all the pro-vaxxers are righties?  

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6 minutes ago, subee said:

Talk about "us and they"....I didn't realize that all "lefties" were anti-vaxxers!

So all the pro-vaxxers are righties?  

I had to think about that one as well ???

Tommy5677

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This isn't a very scientific response but I listen to ZDoggMD on facebook. Hey, he's a real doctor with real credentials and he knows what he's talking about. Check him out.

HRoark64

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13 minutes ago, Tommy5677 said:

This isn't a very scientific response but I listen to ZDoggMD on facebook. Hey, he's a real doctor with real credentials and he knows what he's talking about. Check him out.

Great content! Thank you for sharing. 

CABGpatch_RN

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On 3/29/2021 at 7:25 AM, Tommy5677 said:

ZDoggMD 

I always love it when I see ZDogg's name brought up in conversations around the web.  He is an amazing personality who knows his stuff and can make you laugh while delivering it (good bedside manner).  He's a good human being and he recognizes that nurses are the backbone of healthcare.  Back in the day, he was one of those Residents who was fun to work with even in the most difficult times including at 3am.  He got good training from all of the nurses!  LOL.

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On 3/27/2021 at 8:56 PM, CABGpatch_RN said:

Oh for cripes sake.  You are a piece of work.  A sick sick individual.  You are able to single handedly minimize each and every individual who has been touched by this pandemic around the world - including those of your own profession.

I don't think you are capable of recognizing when someone is having a difficult time.  It's like this is all a joke to you?  After delivering awful news to a family member probably over the phone, do you giggle when you hang up.  That's how I picture you.  You probably do giggle, if not out loud, in your twisted mind.  I doubt very much that all of your co-workers sit around enjoying themselves with dark humor when it comes to your patients suffering the effects of covid.

You're just sick.  You would not last beyond a shift with me and my co-workers.  We can weed out ones like you pretty quickly.

Ayyy calm down cabg, don't blow a gasket now...it's interesting that you feel that you know how my (or anyone else that you don't know from Adam) mind works or even what I think about a particular subject..I'll just hit you with the old "nice try, wrong guy", and keep it moving. But yeah you wouldn't last a minute on my unit either..I'm sorry but in this profession, death is very relevant, death is all around...if it's too much for you, maybe you should rethink your career. Sad but true. 

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On 3/19/2021 at 8:30 PM, CABGpatch_RN said:

 

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I'm wonder if it helps anyone to know that Trump has come out and said GET the vaccine?  

 

Well, it wouldn't help his detractors.  Hopefully people wouldn't let their personal feelings sway their decision to get vaccinated, but it seems that ship has sailed.

TriciaJ, RN

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On 3/19/2021 at 8:57 PM, LindaGracie said:

 If you personally believe that vaccines has caused the increase of autism and other medical conditions seen in children and young adults then likely you may lean away from the vaccine.

 

It isn't about personal belief; it's about science.  I wouldn't think much of a nurse who "personally believes vaccines cause autism".  That nonsense was foisted on the world by a discredited doctor who was looking for a pretext to sue pharmaceutical companies.  That idea has been throughly debunked and no one who has spent a week in nursing school should be perpetuating it.

TriciaJ, RN

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On 3/19/2021 at 9:58 PM, Jack Peace said:

 

This is a direct quote from his son, Bill Gates.

Responding to a question by Moyers on how he came to fund “reproductive issues” Gates answered, “When I was growing up, my parents were always involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it’s fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that.”

 

Is his son making this up? He must be because you clearly know more than him in this regard. 

Check. Mate. 

If Bill Gates's dad had ever been head of Planned Parenthood this would be a matter of public record.  Serving on the board is not the same as being the head.  Bill Gates could very well be making it up, or there is a public record to support it.  According to Snopes, he wasn't.  Anyone who doesn't want to take Snopes's word for it can always track down the public record.

subee, MSN, CRNA

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6 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

It isn't about personal belief; it's about science.  I wouldn't think much of a nurse who "personally believes vaccines cause autism".  That nonsense was foisted on the world by a discredited doctor who was looking for a pretext to sue pharmaceutical companies.  That idea has been throughly debunked and no one who has spent a week in nursing school should be perpetuating it.

And I used to believe that if I left my arm dangling off my bed, the monster that lived beneath the mattress might bite my hand.   I got over that by the time I was 6 because I was able to do a reality check by then.  Perhaps Linda Gracie isn't a nurse and is under the age of 6.