Do you guys see a lot of people saying they are nursing students....

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or go to nursing school and than find out they are still in the Pre Req phase? I swear I have seen a good number of people do this, and than when I say, "Oh what semester are you in, I am in this semester" they are like, Oh well I am not actually in yet but I start pre reqs soon, or I just started pre reqs. I wonder why that is. Before I started the actual program I would say if asked that I was doing Pre Reqs to get into the nursing program. Or I am on the waitlist for the nursing program.

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It's really common here in Fl. We get CNA's who say they're nurses or so many people say they are in the nursing program when they're taking pre-reqs.

When I tell people that I'm in nursing school, they ask me "are you IN the nursing program?" and end up surprised when I tell them I have one school year to go till I can take my boards.

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Another thing I keep reading on here is about BSN programs being so easy to get into. I'm sure things are different everywhere but where I live the cc usually have wait list so everyone gets accepted but the university's mostly are competitive entry and by far are not easy to get into. Many of the people I have met along the way have tried so many times at my school that either the advisor's are telling them to look into other major's or to keep re-taking courses over and over.

In my neck of the woods.. all the programs are competitive.. the CC programs and the Uni ones. What baffles me is that some people say there are more prereqs for the ADN programs than the BSN programs. Here, the BSN programs require 43 hours of general education classes plus another 25+ hours of direct nursing prereqs (including a couple that the ADN programs don't require). The ADN programs here require a couple gen ed classes mixed in with nursing prereqs.. but not nearly as much as the BSN..

In my neck of the woods.. all the programs are competitive.. the CC programs and the Uni ones. What baffles me is that some people say there are more prereqs for the ADN programs than the BSN programs. Here, the BSN programs require 43 hours of general education classes plus another 25+ hours of direct nursing prereqs (including a couple that the ADN programs don't require). The ADN programs here require a couple gen ed classes mixed in with nursing prereqs.. but not nearly as much as the BSN..

So to sum up-- it's different everywhere. My ASN doesn't have a waiting list, you have to reapply every year. It's 1:20 getting accepted.. The 440 thousand plus people on this message board could put in their info too.. we could do a study on it lol. It's different everywhere. Everyone works hard for the privilege of being in a nursing program.

Yeah, I withdrew the comment.

The point was that with your charges of "elitism" and now "delusions of grandeur", your penchant for demonization is, apparently, incapable of containment. You can't seem to stop yourself.

You may be confusing me with another poster, I don't believe I ever accused anyone of elitism. I said I don't care what kind of student folks say they are. Their claims don't impact me.

In fact I specifically tried to clarify with you that I wasn't stating that you were losing control or anything like this...but that the issue merely disturbs you....really, no intention of hyperbole here.

The delusions of grandeur comment was in response to the idea that the OP thinks she matters enough to me to track their posts.

No demonization.

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You may be confusing me with another poster, I don't believe I ever accused anyone of elitism. I said I don't care what kind of student folks say they are. Their claims don't impact me.

In fact I specifically tried to clarify with you that I wasn't stating that you were losing control or anything like this...but that the issue merely disturbs you....really, no intention of hyperbole here.

The delusions of grandeur comment was in response to the idea that the OP thinks she matters enough to me to track their posts.

No demonization.

I consider your kudos to Heinz, who did use the expression an implicit endorsement of it's use.

Be that as it may, I think this conversation has run it's course, at least as far as I am concerned.

If I have offended anyone, I beg your pardon.

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I can understand how this could be a sore subject for some members so lets be respectful of posts that we might not agree with. Thanks everyone.

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Way to poison the well.

What comments are "elitist"?

Was it when we said that people shouldn't call themselves what they are not?

Topic was very toxic before I turned up. Do not want to add my 2 cents to something that isn't worth whingeing about.

What I don't understand is why I see Facebook "friends" posting their educational statuses as XYZ (nursing) school '(insert year), when they haven't even applied to any program :rolleyes:

I am still in the "pre-nursing" phase and until I have applied and been accepted to nursing school, I will not label myself a nursing student.

The point of all this is that you should be proud of yourself at every level. I feel that as being a recent pre nursing student myself the posts on here that are so angry are pretty insulting. I think that if you feel you have to call yourself a nursing student when you're not then it makes me feel that your actions are dictating that you feel there is something wrong with being a pre nursing student to begin with. And the argument taht people are just so dumb that they couldn't understand what pre nursing is-gimme a break. There is pre- everything.. There are pre-law programs (I know Paco69 that you can major in anything, my sister is an attorney as well, this is also true for medical school) pre-med and my cousin is a pre-med student and very proud to be one and there shouldn't be a difference.

I said before that I don't think people understand what I mean by pre-nursing and don't want to explain, and so did a lot of other people. For me it's not that I think their dumb, and yes in a way it is that I think there is something wrong with it, or at least that they would. I guess I am looking at this from a different perspective though because I am not a freshman or sophomore that should be proud of being in nursing pre-reqs and moving along. I am 22, haven't finished a degree, and am working on my pre-req's. I don't want to explain why I've been in school so long and am in essence a student of nothing so I say I am a nursing student, again unless I'm talking to people who get my situation or are in nursing or are nursing students. I also am in classes with students who probably feel much the same way as most of us are non-traditional students by this point. As a freshman I would have been proud to be where I am at program wise, at this point while I'm still proud of myself I feel a little embarrassed not being a Nurse let alone not having gotten into a program. So yeah, I guess it's not the whole explicit truth, but it's a way to save face with people who wouldn't understand WHY I'm pre-nursing, and that it's not because Ive been in college 4 years and haven't gotten in, it's that I just started trying to get in.

In all honesty, when dealing with MOST people just stating that you are "going for nursing" is the easiest thing. Simple, to the point, that is my end goal. But I think a lot of it is in how things are stated/asked. When I have told people that I am back in school I have never been asked "what is your major?"......i have always been asked, "what are you going for?" And to answer that question simply "nursing" is not a false, or decepteive answer. If someone chooses to ask further, I will clarify that I am finishing my pre-reqs up at community college and am hoping to get into an 18 month RN hospital diploma program that requires all non-nursing classes to be taken elsewhere. I have never stated that i am a "nursing student", or that i am IN nursing school(though hopefully it will only be a week before i can)......however that i am "going to school for nursing" is in absolutely no way false.

Just as someone stating they are going to school for law, or going to school to be a laywer is in no way false, even if they are still prelaw/undergraduate. If that is the end goal, that is the purpous of them going to school, so that is what they are going to school for. Stating law student or in law school would be false until accepted into graduate program.

Now buying a kit that is for a class one is not enrolled in is just silly. If they are specially made and are limited, the school should require the bookstore to require nursing students to provide their schedual stating they are enrolled in that course in order to buy them. However silly it may be to buy a lab kit for a class one is not enolled in, you should give the girl a break.....she likely doesnt realize that the kits are limited, and either is over eager and/or something in the kit interested her.

Now, I think it's silly to say you are a nursing student at a particular school if you haven't been accepted (if there is an application process) into that school. I plan on applying to a few selective nursing programs, but I'm not going to say I'm a student of their program until I've been accepted.

But I don't see anything wrong with saying you are a nursing student if that is your major. At my school, there isn't an application process for the nursing program. It's open admission. Once you get on the waitlist, you are no longer a pre-nursing student. You are considered a nursing student. Yet you are not in clinical.

I think it was silly of that girl to buy a kit, only because she wasted money. I do agree if there are limited kits, then the bookstore needs to limit who buys them.

And sorry, but there is NOT pre-"everything". Pre-Sociology Major? Pre-Pscyhologist? Pre-Chemist? Pre-Biologist? Pre-Engineer? Pre-Political Science? Pre-Diagnostic Medical Sonographer? Pre-Electroneurodiagnostic Technician? Pre-Dietitian? Pre-Occupational Therapy Assistant?

BTW, I didn't know what pre-nursing was until I was a pre-nursing student.

Personally, I consider those in clinical "student nurses" not nursing students. I thought the "student nurse" title was reserved for those in clinical.

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You all react like this over pre nursing students calling them selves student nurses... I wonder how you are going to react as a nurse hearing a CNA or MA calling themselves a nurse. Please we all have bigger fish to fry. Why should anyone CARE what students are calling themselves.

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