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25 minutes ago, pamplemoussejuice said:

Hi @eastwest & @The_salty_cat, following this convo as well! I think i maxed out on what Columbia could give me for the MDE (the 15k merit and also a ~28k need based). Still its a lot of money and I'm wondering if a MSN degree with no specialty is worth it?

I think its important for us to note that MDE graduates ARE NOT able to go straight to a post-MSN certification program, which is something I asked during a webinar last week. 

Ultimately I want to go into a CNM specialty and I know that the ACNM and also every midwife I've asked has said that they dont think a DNP is necessary for Midwifery at all. 

I'm having a hard time deciding between Columbia and Mount Sinai (havent gotten a finaid award from them yet). Mount Sinai is an accelerated Bachelor's program but I'm not sure if it matters since the MSN from Columb is non-specialty and I would have to do another MSN to gain NP privileges. 

If there are any DNP students out there who are currently in the program (especially the Midwifery DNP) and have any insight-- please reply!

I agree! I don’t see a significance reason for one to choose to do a MSN instead of an ABSN for just entry into Nursing and getting the liscence. I feel the career prospect between the two right after graduation is pretty much the same for a new grad. Most places wouldn’t want to pay more even with a MSN because the lack of experience as a new grad. They may get considered first but we should ask ourselves if it’s worth the financial pressure in a city that’s already the most expensive. 

Also, I feel the fact they mentioned during the webinar last week that they accepted 200 students for the new MDE cohort is overwhelming. It makes me wonder if they are just trying to make more money instead of picking the best students. 

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3 hours ago, pamplemoussejuice said:

Hi @eastwest & @The_salty_cat, following this convo as well! I think i maxed out on what Columbia could give me for the MDE (the 15k merit and also a ~28k need based). Still its a lot of money and I'm wondering if a MSN degree with no specialty is worth it?

I think its important for us to note that MDE graduates ARE NOT able to go straight to a post-MSN certification program, which is something I asked during a webinar last week. 

Ultimately I want to go into a CNM specialty and I know that the ACNM and also every midwife I've asked has said that they dont think a DNP is necessary for Midwifery at all. 

I'm having a hard time deciding between Columbia and Mount Sinai (havent gotten a finaid award from them yet). Mount Sinai is an accelerated Bachelor's program but I'm not sure if it matters since the MSN from Columb is non-specialty and I would have to do another MSN to gain NP privileges. 

If there are any DNP students out there who are currently in the program (especially the Midwifery DNP) and have any insight-- please reply!

I am not familiar with Midwifery but I do know a few students who have applied to post-MSN programs after the MDE ends. This is very common. Students in the previous cohorts have applied and been accepted to post-MSN programs. I know a few people doing this at Vanderbilt, Yale, and Penn. So I do not know why you were told this information and I doubt Columbia knows much about what programs other schools may offer. Our new MDE dean also told us we can apply to post-Masters after the MDE as well. 

One thing I want to add is that sometimes if a school does not offer post-MSN programs, you would have to look at their MSN program but since you will be taking many MSN core courses in the MDE program here, you can waive these courses in your next MSN program. This way, your MSN program is shorter and there is a more clinical focus since you already took the electives and core courses. This really depends on the school, but from talking to past and current students, this is what they've done. 

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Thanks so much that's super helpful!

Can you speak to the support of faculty and admin during the MDE portion? Also just generally the culture of the MDE cohort year to year? I've been doing my post-bacc at Hunter and didn't really get to connect with students and I am definitely looking for more of a community in the program I choose.

Additionally, how easy or difficult is it to find an RN position in NYC after the MDE? Are hospitals becoming familiar with the program and do they seem eager to hire Columbia's MDE grads?

Thanks!

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On 2/12/2019 at 11:58 AM, pamplemoussejuice said:

Thanks so much that's super helpful!

Can you speak to the support of faculty and admin during the MDE portion? Also just generally the culture of the MDE cohort year to year? I've been doing my post-bacc at Hunter and didn't really get to connect with students and I am definitely looking for more of a community in the program I choose.

Additionally, how easy or difficult is it to find an RN position in NYC after the MDE? Are hospitals becoming familiar with the program and do they seem eager to hire Columbia's MDE grads?

Thanks!

Feel free to PM me! 

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24 minutes ago, The_Salty_Cat said:

Feel free to PM me! 

Can you please write the answer in the forum? I’m sure most of other students would like to know your answers to the questions too. Thanks! 🙂

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On 2/13/2019 at 11:53 PM, abcdenrse said:

Can you please write the answer in the forum? I’m sure most of other students would like to know your answers to the questions too. Thanks! 🙂

I highly recommend you visit all the schools you got into and visit Columbia too. Talk to the students, get a feel of the environment, ask questions, and see what you think. 

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On 8/3/2018 at 9:56 AM, PsychNP2Bee said:

Hey there Glal2,

I will most definitely let you and everyone know! In the event that say no, I would see about taking an online course in Nutrition as a non-degree student somewhere. I was looking at the University of South Dakota and it looks like a good course and not too pricey, I also heard that Johns Hopkins has pre-reqs as well. Not sure of pricing though. I know based on Columbia's site we have until May 2019 to wrap up any loose ends, including pre-requisites.

Hey! did you ever get a chance to ask them about this? I just wanted to see before i register for a nutrition class online, Thanks! 

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5 hours ago, Glal2 said:

Hey! did you ever get a chance to ask them about this? I just wanted to see before i register for a nutrition class online, Thanks! 

OMG!! I apologize to everyone, I forgot to report back to you all. Yes the adcom accepted my Biochemistry course to fulfill the Nutrition requirement. Just make sure you contact them, present your case and course you took and provide a syllabus. Depending on the content they will let you know if its equivalent. In my case the Biochem class was in med school and contained medical nutrition so we covered alot. 

Good Luck!

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