Published Mar 29, 2015
NanikRN
392 Posts
Whats your experience with nurses in this role? Do you think this is a role thats going to expand? Ive been asked to consider doing this with hospital paying for school.
What do you guys think about the CNL position and its future?
ShantheRN, BSN, RN
646 Posts
Ha, I just posted something similar in another forum. If your hospital is asking you to go back for it, I would assume they will have positions open - that's always a good sign!
Thanks Shan
Anyone else ?
tookalongtime
32 Posts
I am a Clinical Nurse Leader on a busy Med-Surg floor. This is definitely an expanding role. We transitioned from the charge nurse role into the Nurse Leader role. The role has expanded into more than just a supervisory role. We are an extension of our manager.
Jules A, MSN
8,864 Posts
I would do it if its free and interests you. It has been a while since I have had to deal with them but my big complaint with these programs is that most of the graduates have no nursing experience. This is a fast track so they are graduating with their Masters and a hefty dose of delegation skills. As a floor RN attempting to orient these new nurses, many who had never even given an IM injection prior to hitting the floor, in most cases their lofty idea of the value of their advanced degree overshadowed their ability to learn from a lowly BSN. I have worked with two who were humble and presented as a typical new grad with zero experience and an interest in learning from the ground up but unfortunately that was the exception rather than rule. It doesn't sound like this will apply to you since you already have the foundation so again if its free I'd do it. Good luck.
The Clinical Nurse Leaders at our facility are not from a program. They are experienced floor nurses that are wanting to have more responsibility and have leadership skills that are necessary. We do have a training program that is in-house for Nurse Leaders, and the requirement is at least a BSN.
Thanks all. I have had experience with CNLs with limited experience--not helpful at all to me as a floor nurse. More often CNLs have a masters specializing in CNL training.
When CNLs were first introduced. I didnt actually think it was a role that would stick. Seems like it is though
Tookalongtime-did you get the degree plan? Its interesting that different hospitald do things so differently Our cnls work more on pt care collaboration with the staff and drs, discharge plans and avoiding readmissions. The manager has some input into their duties but they report to a corporate superviser
APRN., DNP, RN, APRN, NP
995 Posts
I am in a CNL program as an experienced RN.
The CNL role is the right blend of "specialized and generalized" so that you don't get "pigeon-holed" into one area of nursing like the CNS, NP, Educator, etc. roles do.
I anticipate that the implementation of the CNL role will expand further as more people figure out that they have a Master-Level-Educated Nurse who has outcomes management skills in both inpatient/outpatient settings, acute care/skilled, as well as the versatility to adapt and conform any Microsystem setting.
The CNL's that the OP is referring to are the ones who sit for the CNL/Clinical Nurse Leader exam after having taken a MSN level program (or post-MSN Certificate) educating one on the role and function of the CNL in the Microsystem.
[h=4]WHAT IS CNL CERTIFICATION? ( American Association of Colleges of Nursing | What is CNL Certification?) [/h]
The purpose of the CNL Certification is to create a unique credential for graduates of master's and post-master's CNL programs. Candidates who meet all eligibility requirements and pass the CNL Certification Examination will earn the credential of CNLâ€.The CNL certification is based upon a national standard of requisite knowledge and experiences, thereby assisting employers, the public and members of the health professions in the assessment of a CNL.The CNL is a master's-prepared clinician certified by the Commission on Nurse Certification. Graduate education is necessary because the CNL must bring a high level of clinical competence and knowledge to the point of care and serve as a resource for the nursing team. In practice, the CNL oversees the care coordination and integration of care for a distinct group of patients. This master's degree-prepared clinician puts evidence-based practice into action to ensure that patients benefit from the latest innovations in care delivery. The CNL evaluates patient outcomes, assesses cohort risk, and has the decision-making authority to change care plans when necessary. The CNL is a leader and active member of the interdisciplinary health care team. The implementation of the CNL role will vary across health care settings.
American Association of Colleges of Nursing | Use of CNL Logo, Credential, and Term
Morainey, BSN, RN
831 Posts
My new job has a CNL who is new to the role. As far as I can see, she is an extension of the nurse manager. I don't work the same shift as her but she seems to do a lot of policy reviews, making sure our competencies are up to date, etc. It doesn't interest me, personally, but I understand it is a field with a lot of new growth potential.