Jump to content

Children with autism get day in court

News   (3,748 Views 22 Comments)
by hogan4736 hogan4736, BSN, RN (Member)

hogan4736 has 13 years experience as a BSN, RN.

6,919 Profile Views; 739 Posts

WASHINGTON - The parents of 12-year-old Michelle Cedillo asked a federal court Monday to find that their child's autism was caused by common childhood vaccines, a precedent-setting case that could pave the way for thousands of autistic children to receive compensation from a government fund set up to help people injured by the shots.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070611/ap_on_go_ot/autism_vaccines

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

gentle specializes in Med-Surg, Tele, DOU.

395 Posts; 7,654 Profile Views

This will be interesting to watch over the course of time. How will the defense attorney present their "evidence" in support of the possible association between thiomerisol and autism? And then who is the company that makes the thiomerisol as a preservative?

Lots of questions.

This will be interesting to watch.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

4 Posts; 551 Profile Views

How will the defense attorney present their "evidence" in support of the possible association between thiomerisol and autism?

The evidence is in the bloodwork. Mercury is known to cause CNS damage and the affected children have excessive levels of mercury levels in their blood. The only question is how it got there.

You may find this link helpful:

http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/thimerosal.php

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

27 Posts; 1,138 Profile Views

I have a son who is autistic. I truly do not believe his vaccines caused his autism. If could go back in time, I would still have him receive his vaccinations, the benefits far out weigh the risks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

27 Posts; 1,138 Profile Views

Just wanted to add this also, the reason there is a higher incident of autism now is because much more is known about it, early detection is key to successful therapies in some cases. So to compare the higher incidents of autism to vaccines isn't right in my view point, the increase in diagnosis I think is because of more awareness and testing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

4 Posts; 551 Profile Views

Hope, what are your son's blood mercury levels? Again, the children in question have toxic levels of mercury in the blood which remains unaccounted for. How did it get there if it wasn't the thimerosal?

If you feel that's thimerosal is not responsible for your son's autism, that's your decision. But it doesn't mean that these parents have to see it your way. IMO they right to get some answers here. It is not your right to judge them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ladytraviler specializes in insanity control.

187 Posts; 3,256 Profile Views

Hope, what are your son's blood mercury levels? Again, the children in question have toxic levels of mercury in the blood which remains unaccounted for. How did it get there if it wasn't the thimerosal?

If you feel that's thimerosal is not responsible for your son's autism, that's your decision. But it doesn't mean that these parents have to see it your way. IMO they right to get some answers here. It is not your right to judge them.

Hold on please! I did not read as her judging anyone but was just stating her opion. I think she did it in a nonconfrontational way and still got slapped for it. Why put your two cents in if it is going to be an argument. She has a child who happens to have autism. She stated that she would still get the vaccines. How was that judgemental?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

27 Posts; 1,138 Profile Views

Thank you. I am far from judgemental, I am speaking from my experience as a parent with a child with autism and as a family that spent years searching for answers and years of interventions and therapies. I was just giving a view point from a parent of a child with autism.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

mercyteapot has 20 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities.

2,756 Posts; 21,794 Profile Views

Just wanted to add this also, the reason there is a higher incident of autism now is because much more is known about it, early detection is key to successful therapies in some cases. So to compare the higher incidents of autism to vaccines isn't right in my view point, the increase in diagnosis I think is because of more awareness and testing.

Better detection may account for some of the rise in the numbers, but not all of them and there is not one bit of evidence to suggest otherwise. Autism prevalence has risen monstrously over the past several decades are to dismiss it with ''oh, now we recognize it better" does a huge disservice to families who want to know why and to future children who may be saved this diagnosis if we take the need to research the causes seriously instead of claiming status quo.

I have a son with autism, too. Personally I don't blame vaccines for his autism only because I saw signs very early in his life, even before the first vaccines. That doesn't mean they haven't caused someone else's, though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

4 Posts; 551 Profile Views

It's judgemental because she said that comparing vaccines to the increase in autism "isn't right". I read "not right" as "wrong", and I strongly disagree.

IMO, it's right for these reasons:

1. Thimerosal contains mercury.

2. The children in question have excessively high levels of mercury which remain unaccounted for.

3. It has never been conclusively proven that thimerosal doesn't cause autism (I know no link between the two has been found, but that does not mean it doesn't exist or that it won't be found in the future)

4. Thimerosal has been voluntarily removed from most vaccines - why would this have been done if it's so safe?

It's true that better education has lead to the increase in diagnosis, but again, that doesn't mean that thimerosal is safe. We could have mercury-poisoned children all along w/o knowing it.

It will be very interesting to see what happens to the diagnosis rates when children given thimerosal-free vaccines reach the age during which autism is usually diagnosed.

And to answer why I put my two cents in - it's because the first poster asked what "evidence" would be presented - and put the word in quotation marks to imply that it's not real evidence.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you a credible source? Add your Credentials, Experience, etc.

27 Posts; 1,138 Profile Views

Since I wrote the comment, only I can say if I were judgemental, and I was not being judgemental. I do apologize for giving my thoughts, as a parent with a child with autism, I have been paying attention to studies, and have my son in a current study. Again, I apologize if my view point was different from others.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

LoveMyBugs is a BSN, CNA, RN and specializes in Pediatrics.

1,316 Posts; 14,443 Profile Views

Hope you are not being judgmental, you are a parent with a child who has autism. I am also a parent with a child who has autism. Some families may believe that there is a link to the shots and autism and if that is true for them then they should pursue the case. However more studies are showing a genetic link with autism, chromosome 11 and 15 show genetic links. I have two sons, my oldest I swore had autism and he was in early intervention, the specialist said he didn't have autism, after being in early intervention for 2 years like a light switch he became "typical." Because my oldest son was involved in early intervention my younger son was seen by specialist at 18 months, before the shot and he has been classified as having "educational autism" and PDD-NOS. He is now six years old. My niece who is now 4 is showing signs of autism. Which for my family would show genetic links.

Nobody knows with 100% certainty what causes autism, what I DO know is that there needs to be more research for treatments.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×