My CRNA friends do illegal drugs - page 9

Two of my friends who are CRNA's take recreational ecstasy almost every weekend. They will take it on Saturday night...stay up all night....and then try to sleep it off on Sunday. When Monday... Read More

  1. by   BSNin2007
    kaeri,
    Just because someone disagrees with your point of view is no reason to condemn an entire country. Just as I certainly don't believe all Australians are sitting around doing X because one person made a, from what I gathered, sarcastic comment. If you don't like being judged or labeled why would you do it to others?
  2. by   BSNin2007
    Kaeri,
    This is not a political website so I will not defend my political views, I will however state that you have no idea who I voted for and what my stance on foreign affairs is so please don't assume you do.
  3. by   Focker
    Quote from BSNin2007
    RN/BSN/JD/ESQ
    Thank goodness for your conviction. I am seriously worried that I may receive medical care from some of the respondents to this thread. Some of these people are defending the actions of the alleged users so voraciously one may begin to question their motives.
    When someone defends gay's right to marry, do you assume they are gay? When someone is pro-choice, do you assume they've had an abortion? If I support the 2nd amendment do you assume I own a gun? That would clearly be faulty logic.

    There is no need for basically accusing half the respondents of doing drugs themselves, it accomplishes nothing but devaluing the worth of your opinion in this discussion. If you disagree with someone, try an intelligent rebuttal instead.
    Last edit by Focker on Oct 7, '06
  4. by   BSNin2007
    Focker,
    Something as serious as someone who administers anesthesia doing illegal drugs? I don't see the justification in defending them unless you agree with it. I am not saying you,or anyone who feels it is okay is a user themselves, but I would question their ability to make responsible decisions and therefore their ability or priveledge, it is not a right, to hold a license. This is clearly not in the same league as defending being pro-choice or gay marriage. These "professionals" are violating people and risking lives through their illegal and irresponsible behavior.
  5. by   jeroboam
    Quote from augigi
    I think she said "underage" which would imply it was not between consenting adults.

    I happen to agree with you, although I don't appreciate the implication that Australians are ignorant fools sitting in the "outback". Personally, I live in a city of ~5 million, and have the same access to news that you do.

    I never said or implied that Australians are "ignorant fools sitting in the 'outback' ". I made a textual analogy to the expansive and lightly-populated American west/midwest, which has a high rate of drug addiction along with a "live and let live" attitude that contributes to that rate. I had also just read this article within the last couple of days:
    http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/section/s...ectid=10401906

    Don't be so sensitive.
  6. by   Focker
    Last edit by Focker on Oct 8, '06
  7. by   rn/writer
    Stick to the issues, please, and leave politics, gender, nationality, sexual orientation, and other personal attributes out of the discussion.
  8. by   traumaRUs
    Let's keep this on topic please folks. The topic is whether CRNA's who use recreational ecstacy prior to coming to work should be reported. Not sure how this morphed into a political hotbed.

    My input: why is the OP hanging out with the drug-using CRNA's? As a law-abiding person, I would report it or not associate with these folks.
  9. by   dfk
    Quote from traumaRUs
    Let's keep this on topic please folks. The topic is whether CRNA's who use recreational ecstacy prior to coming to work should be reported. Not sure how this morphed into a political hotbed.

    My input: why is the OP hanging out with the drug-using CRNA's? As a law-abiding person, I would report it or not associate with these folks.
    if your best friend was using, would YOU stop hanging out with them?
  10. by   dogbone
    Quote from dfk
    if your best friend was using, would YOU stop hanging out with them?
    Yup
  11. by   nurse4theplanet
    Quote from RN/BSN/JD/ESQ
    And that brings me to this: a license from the government to engage in a specialized occupation is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. When you violate the requirements for maintaining that privilege, you lose your license. We don't care if the kid at McDonalds used Ecstasy last night, because his cash register is preprogrammed to give the correct change. At the worst, I may get someone else's order in my bag. But we do care about airline pilots, and doctors, and nurses, and bus drivers, and child care workers, etc.

    I'll repeat my advice: report these women.
    EXCELLENT POST!
  12. by   nurse4theplanet
    Quote from dfk
    if your best friend was using, would YOU stop hanging out with them?
    If my best friend was using any illegal substance, I would first try to get him/her some help.

    If the use continued and this person was in severe denial of having a problem....I would ABSOLUTELY stop "hanging out" with them.

    You have a license, a family, and a personal reputation to protect. In my town, if one is stopped for a traffic violation and any passenger in the car is found to have an illegal substance on their person, the police officers have the right to take everyone to jail. If you 'hang out' with the drug users frequently with full knowledge of their habit, then others may assume you do the same and you leave yourself open for false accusations. It is against my personal values and those of my family to enable such poor judgement and I choose not to expose myself to such behavior.
  13. by   Dakkon76
    I'm still a few years away from even thinking about applying to a CRNA program, and yet I'd prefer to know the effects of a drug before I take it. A quick look at Wikipedia is enough to convince me that I have no need to take ecstacy... Some good info here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstasy_%28drug%29

    These people insult health care and damage the reputation of their peers.

    As for ceasing to hang out with my best friend... yeah, I recall that happening in JR high when my friends all decided pot was in... then in high school when my best friend at the time could consume an entire case (24) of beer at a party. I found it impossible to remain friends with these people, and I'm glad I thought so... otherwise I'd surely have gotten into trouble right along with them.

    Since I'm from a small town and remain in contact with many of my friends, I know for a fact that none of the pot smokers ever went to college, and that the raging alcoholic got at least 2 DUI's (he was over 2.0 for his first one and couldn't find his driver's license... which was in his back pocket). Correlation may not equal causation... but I'm happy with the path I've taken and while I'm sorry that they chose these behaviors, I'm never sorry that we didn't remain friends.

    So I suppose the analogy could be made... if your friend insisted to get in his car and drive through a school playground after having a case of beer, what would you do about it? Seems to me that I'd have to hold myself accountable for doing nothing... not something I'd choose to live with.
    Last edit by Dakkon76 on Oct 8, '06

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