Attention NC Residents - page 3

Okay guys, here we go again. We're the latest state in which the MDA's are trying to restrict our practice, as well as make it legal for AA's to work here. A bill is currently being introduced into... Read More

  1. by   jewelcutt
    I believe in fighting for the future of our profession and I often wonder how many of us on this board actually do something about it rather than waste our time hiding behind keyboards insulting others. I applaud NCgirl for informing us of this issue, I often cruise the AANA and state website to look for current issues that may affect my future practice. We all have such strong feelings but let's try to remain respectful and remember this is an open forum. Jwk has been a member of this board for a while and has provided many insightful threads.
    Last edit by jewelcutt on Mar 6, '05
  2. by   jwk
    Quote from deepz
    I'm sure you could find the proper forum in which to promote AAs, somewhere. This ain't it. Over and over and over here, you shill for the A$A.

    Do not expect to find a sympathetic ear on a CRNA forum. Why should you be surprised or disappointed and turn all snotty and snide on us, when you do evoke the hostile responses that you seem to desire, trolling for validation here, seeking authenticity here, over and over and over?

    One definition of psychosis is repeating and repeating one's actions without ever getting a different response.

    deepz
    Z, I'm not trying to promote AA's on this forum. We both agree I wouldn't get very far. Nor do I expect (or look for) sympathy. I don't seek validation or "authenticity" (whatever that's supposed to mean) either. I certainly don't need that from anyone here.

    My main point in these posts is to counter anything that turns up as misinformation or outright lies about my profession. And maybe some will see we're not the devil incarnate that we're made out to be - although I know you'll never change your mind

    I've actually learned a lot about CRNA's on this board by participating in these discussions. Hopefully some of the CRNA's have learned some factual information about AA's.
  3. by   BigDave
    Don't beat me up, but I agree.
    Last time I looked there were something like 92 CRNA schools pumping out our kind...but only two AA schools. Is there really a serious threat to our practice by these guys?

    I too gather insightful info from jwk, we already chased off georgiaAA from this forum. We may not be in bed with tenesma or jwk (from the ASA standpoint), but they are both competent anesthesia providers and further our understanding of the art of our chosen profession.

    Like the "politics" thread recently brought up, nurses have almost always rolled over and played passive when the going got rough. There are something like 28,000 CRNAs out there. You would think that we had a stronger voice out there. You should probably blame the AANA and the individual providers that have failed to support our association that is supposed to lobby for what we seek. Taking it out on jwk may be like shooting the messenger.
  4. by   skipaway
    If you'd like to contribute to the NCANA's opposition of H503 send a check to the NC Strategic Reserve Fund.
    You can go online to
    http://www.ncana.com and donate there. You can use credit card or send a check.

    In-state North Carolinians can contribute to our PAC fund if they'd like but I've been told that these PAC funds can't be used when the General Assembly is in session. We can, however, use the SRF funds however and whenever we'd like. So as of now, it probably is best to donate the the Strategic Reserve Fund.


    Thanks in advance.
    skipaway
    Last edit by skipaway on Mar 6, '05
  5. by   URgettingsleepy
    JWK, has posted he will put his skills up against a CRNA anyday. You know what? to say that on a nurse anesthetist board, then claim he supervises CRNA's. He is clearly looking for validation. He is in the wrong forum, try Studendoctor.net. In fact he posts on Studentdoctor.net quite often, In fact he has posted many times against CRNA's. Preaching to medical students how he(see assitants) believe in the Anesthesia care team, we would never try to do what the CRNA's are doing blah, blah, blah. Be very careful about welcoming his comments on this forum he says one thing to us and another thing as he sucks up to residents and interns on Studentdoctor.net .
    Though there are only two schools now. I know of two currently trying to be set up. One is here in Texas, check the TANA website.
    Reading over this email, It is hash but CRNA's know in your hearts JWK is not posting on our board to help us, but more to verify himself..seeking acceptance.
    Acceptance denied. UR
  6. by   LNsrna
    Quote from skipaway
    If you'd like to contribute to the NCANA's opposition of H503 and you are not a resident of NC, send a check to the NC Strategic Reserve Fund.
    You can go online to
    http://www.ncana.com and donate there. You can use credit card or send a check.

    In-state North Carolinians can contribute to our PAC fund if they'd like.


    Thanks in advance.
    skipaway
    Thanks skipaway. Just donated on line. By the way everyone, donating on line was very simple and efficient.
  7. by   NCgirl
    Skipaway, thanks for your help! I knew if I got this thread started, that there would have to be some NC CRNA's who would know more.
  8. by   LNsrna
    Quote from URgettingsleepy
    JWK, has posted he will put his skills up against a CRNA anyday. You know what? to say that on a nurse anesthetist board, then claim he supervises CRNA's. He is clearly looking for validation. He is in the wrong forum, try Studendoctor.net. In fact he posts on Studentdoctor.net quite often, In fact he has posted many times against CRNA's. Preaching to medical students how he(see assitants) believe in the Anesthesia care team, we would never try to do what the CRNA's are doing blah, blah, blah. Be very careful about welcoming his comments on this forum he says one thing to us and another thing as he sucks up to residents and interns on Studentdoctor.net .
    Though there are only two schools now. I know of two currently trying to be set up. One is here in Texas, check the TANA website.
    Reading over this email, It is hash but CRNA's know in your hearts JWK is not posting on our board to help us, but more to verify himself..seeking acceptance.
    Acceptance denied. UR
    Being one of those older (ancient) students, I have a little bit of experience in the politics of life. I have respect for some of those who have posted here who are not associated with the CRNA/SRNA/CRNAwanabe club. Some have been informative. That being said, it is easy to be naive about people's intentions. Make no mistake, there are folks out there monitoring us just like we monitor them. There's too much at stake not to.
  9. by   skipaway
    bump
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  11. by   SleepyRN2B
    Just a note... this bill is sponsored by a real estate appraiser, home builder, and what a suprise a MD. I hope the AANA pushes money into NC to see these so an so's defeated in the next election.
  12. by   SCmomof3
    Subbing to look further into this, as I am aspiring to CRNA in the future!
  13. by   Maxs
    If there are 25000 CRNA's and 92 outstanding CRNA schools, then why aren't all the CRNA's taking action? After all this is their career. The salary of all the CRNA's combined per year can roughly be more or less than $3375000000.00 dollars. Yet, you hustle the ones that make three to four times less than you. In my opinion, getting as many CRNA's from the nation involved can evoke a better response, politics costs a lot of money-bottom line. All you have to defend is a bill being supported by three people. If CRNA's do not take action, well then they can compensate their careers for it. It is really confusing trying to side with either parties because we all know the party that wants this bill passed is using patient safety as an easy scapegoat. On the other hand, the CRNA's do not want to be put in a state where a law's intention and it is literal meaning are can be interchanged. Is this fair? Heck No. In the world of business, there are always going to be competitors. And getting rid of your competitors is not the best solution to the problem. What CRNA's need to do is hire outstanding lawyers and boil the water to its gas phase (compete back). CRNA's provide 70% of the anesthesia in the United States. However, the other 30% (MDA's, AA's) are seeking control over the majority. Logically that does not make a lot of sense, but maybe this is because it's a female dominant field (no offense). Take actions, not only write to your legislators. For example, could you imagine what would happen if 70% of anesthesia cut down in one day. That'll make everyone furious because nobody wants to undergo that knife with all the pain and there's no possible way MDA's can cover up for the loss at once. To win a battle, you have to hit your enemy where it hurts the most. If you feel your not being treated right, then make threats, warn your enemies, if none of that works, you take action. CRNA's maybe making a lot of money today, but if they're greedy with their money then, they can kiss their careers gradually good bye. TAKE ACTION !
    My 0.02

    Maxs

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