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CDC Data Shows Strong Relationship Between MMR Vaccine and Autism

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After four long years and many more children's lives being destroyed, CHD Board Member, Dr. Brian Hooker's reanalysis of the CDC's MMR/autism data from the original DeStefano et al. 2004 Pediatrics paper has been republished in the Winter 2018 Edition of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. The data, when properly analyzed, using the CDC's own study protocol, show a strong, statistically significant relationship between the timing of the first MMR vaccine and autism. After reading this current research do you feel it's ethical for providers to modify their vaccination education and the administration for certain patient populations that are at increased risks for autism?

Journal of the American Physicians and Surgeons - Vol. 23 No. 4

http://www.jpands.org/vol23no4/hooker.pdf

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It's unethical to rely on unscientific "research" to promote an anti-vaccination agenda.

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Per the disclosures:

Dr. Hooker has received funding from the Focus for Health

Foundation and serves on Focus for Health's board of directors. Dr. Hooker is

also on the board of directors for the Children's Health Defense (formerly the World Mercury Project).

So the guy that presented fraudulent data using poor scientific methods in a study that was debunked decides to "re-analyze" his original data with data that was magically omitted and suddenly finds a statistically significant relationship that he thinks should be looked into further.

This guy is unethical, biased, and has multiple conflicts of interest directly related to his research...hard to believe no one takes his "re-analysis" seriously....

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How can your accuse someone who asks a question of "lying"?

Because it was rhetorical and trying to cause an effect to mislead, not elicit information.

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Because it was rhetorical and trying to cause an effect to mislead, not elicit information.

It was a question. Answer it and don't question my integrity. You have no grounds.

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Per the disclosures:

Dr. Hooker has received funding from the Focus for Health

Foundation and serves on Focus for Health's board of directors. Dr. Hooker is

also on the board of directors for the Children's Health Defense (formerly the World Mercury Project).

So the guy that presented fraudulent data using poor scientific methods in a study that was debunked decides to "re-analyze" his original data with data that was magically omitted and suddenly finds a statistically significant relationship that he thinks should be looked into further.

This guy is unethical, biased, and has multiple conflicts of interest directly related to his research...hard to believe no one takes his "re-analysis" seriously....

Okay, let's take the other side of the coin and assume your hypothesis is right and there is no link between autism and MMR. We are still left with these two FACTS!!

1) Autism rates have risen from 1 in 2500 to 1 in 68 since 1964. Can you honestly say that's all due to better diagnosing?

2) Prevalence of autism in African-Americans is approximately 25% higher than that of whites. Can you honestly say that's all due to better diagnosing?

So.......doctors were so stupid in 1950, 1900, 1800 etc that they couldn't even recognize children with a particular range of symptoms??? If that were true we would also have to throw out all the data relating to polio, measles, diphtheria etc too and therefore conclude that there is no evidence that vaccines have been of any use. Even if you want to make the claim that doctors recognized them but called it something else then that would lead to the same conclusion because for all we know we just call measles, polio, diphtheria etc something else now too.

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Several posts have been removed. Please adhere to the terms of service. And, this is a charged topic. Please cite legitimate sources for information.

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It was a question. Answer it and don't question my integrity. You have no grounds.

Are you questioning the integrity of The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons?

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Are you questioning the integrity of The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons?

Hmm medline - no and from wikipedia about the organization:

The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

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