Published Nov 2, 2010
princessnurse1
2 Posts
My D.O.N requires you to call the facility and call her when you call off for any reason no matter what the time. I have worked there 1 1/2 yrs and called of once for snow because I have an hour drive. She tried to pick me up..she never made it, roads were too bad. (hello) This past week she has yelled, screamed and bullied our nurse and cna that called off telling them they really needed to come to work. In their defense they do not call off frequently!! Ok she is the D.O.N on call..shouldn't she come in?
linearthinker, DNP, RN
1,688 Posts
I don't really get your post, but I'll answer the question posed in the title... no, she cannot.
mappers
437 Posts
Can they? Of course they can! Your post proves it. Do you have to come in? No. And if you are within the absentee policy guidelines, they can't fire you for it.
I've been on the other side of the fence. I've been a manager when people have called out. I've had other employees say "That's ridiculous! What are YOU going to do about it!!" Ummmm..I can't drive to their house and make them come to work. They have the PTO, they called within guidelines. They might be lying, but there really isn't anything I can do about it. Of course, the people asking what I'm going to do about it are the same ones who will call in the next week.
I won't manage people who are hourly again.
kcochrane
1,465 Posts
If they followed the policy, than no. Even if they didn't, she has no right to bully anyone. If they aren't abusing sick time, she needs to let them be.
I like my new job with the PTO policy. You get a week and you can just call off. No excuse needed. If you go beyond that 5 days, then they can do something if needed.
flyingchange
291 Posts
I think I understand where the OP might be coming from. When I worked in home health there was a "mandatory 2 staff" policy (often broken). 2 staff needed to be on during certain hours. If the team lead couldn't find coverage for a callout she was responsible to come in. She was very, very, determined not to let that happen.
RubyRN,CHPN
172 Posts
As a nurse, I find it horribly irresponsible to ask sick people to come to work. Just bad practice.
ImThatGuy, BSN, RN
2,139 Posts
Yeah, they can, and I've done it. Usually when employees would call me I'd ask what was wrong, and it was out of concern. If it's what I called a B.S. problem and knew I'd be short-handed otherwise I'd say "I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come on in. If things are going smoothly I'll let you go home early if you need to go." Usually once they got there they'd stay.
Leelee2
344 Posts
Sure they can ask you to come in anyway, you can stand up for yourself and tell them "as I told you in the first phone call, I am out sick today."
If you really want to make a point, you could go on to say how irresponsible it is to ask someone who is ill to come in and take care of others who are ill with compromised immune systems.
CoffeeRTC, BSN, RN
3,734 Posts
What you are asking is "Is it right for her to do that? or Is it legal?"
Sure they can do it.
llg, PhD, RN
13,469 Posts
Another option I have had to enforce is a policy that says basically: "If you are sick enough to call out on a holiday, then you should be sick enough to see a doctor. If you don't have a physician's note saying that you were seen (or an NP, PA, etc.), it will count as an unexcused absence and there will be some sort of punishment." It was not the standard policy for every day, but was the policy for holiday shifts.
When faced with that option, I've had people choose to come into work on the holiday instead of going to an urgent care center. They seemed fine by the way the acted while at work.
MzMouse
295 Posts
Honestly I can see it if there is a nurse who calls out frequently for every little thing. But for myself I would be upset. I call out about once every two years, when I call in sick I am SICK.
cecilsgirl
121 Posts
I have a comment about the "snow day" call -off, I think that is so wrong that your DON tried to come and get you!!!!! What if she did make it and then there was an accident, then what? sounds like a good way to Sue the pants off her and the company. Any other thoughts on the snow day and I will pick you up crap?? I could see if it was maybe a few miles and your drive was blocked or something, but to bring someone in an hour away ? weird!