Is US30 per hour in San Francisco a good starting salary?

Geena, BSN, RN · Sep 12, 2006

Can't be. Sorry. Say if you're getting 30/hr instead of 40/hr.

Ten dollars difference and it's in their pocket. Your weekly is 36 hours (?) and 52 weeks in a year. We're talking just short of 20 000 for costs. I'd like to see those expenses.

Sheri257 · Sep 13, 2006

Can't be. Sorry. Say if you're getting 30/hr instead of 40/hr.
Ten dollars difference and it's in their pocket. Your weekly is 36 hours (?) and 52 weeks in a year. We're talking just short of 20 000 for costs. I'd like to see those expenses.

I'd have to dig up the links again but some of the California hospital associations have done surveys on foreign vs. U.S. recruitment and training costs. The problem is that the estimates vary widely ... anywhere from $6K to $25K for a foreign nurse ... although $15K is probably the average. And, recruiting and training U.S. nurses can be just as expensive also.

But, even if you assume that it costs as much as $25K to hire a foreign nurse ... if they save that $10 an hour and get them to sign a typical two year contract ... they bank $12K over two years (10 x 36 x 52 = 18,720 x 2 years = 37,440 - 25,000 = 12,440.)

And, if you assume the more likely average cost of $15K per foreign nurse then, they bank $22K per nurse over two years at that lower pay rate.

The real savings though, IMHO, is if they don't have to raise overall staff pay by hiring foreign nurses. If you can keep overall wages $2-$3 below what you would normally have to pay to attract U.S. nurses ... because you have the additional foreign labor pool coming in filling demand ... then the savings can run into the millions.

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suzanne4, RN · Sep 15, 2006

The pay is low because the hospital is going to pay for all the immigration expenses, that's what I am thinking.

Sorry, but they are giving you the royal screw. And is it thru an agency or direct hire? There is not a facility in the BAY Area that is paying that.

Immigration costs are about $5000 range total, you will be paying 700% interest on that. Please do the math.

And I hope that you did not sign for that.

FutureUSRN · Sep 19, 2006

never signed-up any contract yet...I am yet to be interviewed by the one you referred...

florencenightingale, BSN, RN · Sep 19, 2006

Hi, Suzanne.

I am being offered a job in a Skilled Nursing Facility in Oakland, California for $29/hour, and I thought that the rate is okay. But reading through this thread makes my hair stand on end!!! I'ts a good thing that I haven't signed anything yet. The direct hire agency is offering to pay all costs directly related to my immigrant petition, but I will be solely responisble for paying the legal fees of my family. The agreement is good for 2 1/2 years. And if I fail to complete the 2 1/2 years, I will be required to pay back all the costs incurred by the agency. But no specific amount was mentioned.

Also, a friend offered to help me land a job in CPMC in San Francisco. Now I have an idea on how much I should be getting per hour, and if it's less than what you guys are stating here in this thread I might as well decline the offer.

Allnurses.com is a life saver!

florencenightingale, BSN, RN · Sep 19, 2006

I am working at the most competitive paying hospital in San Francisco, and I started at $47/hr as a GN last year. Since then, i have had 3 raises and now making $51/ hr. $30/hr is definately not a competitive rate -- keep looking!

Hi, Luilui_604!

Is CPMC sponsoring Nurses for Immigrant visa?

Thanks

FutureUSRN · Sep 19, 2006

Hi! Is that the same one that will give you a raise to $35 after six mos of working?

florencenightingale, BSN, RN · Sep 19, 2006

Hi! Is that the same one that will give you a raise to $35 after six mos of working?

I don't know if it's the same agency/facility. They haven't told me anything about a raise after six months

FutureUSRN · Sep 19, 2006

I've seen the contract but never signed it yet. It was also from Oakland but the work is in SFO.

There is a provision for a raise to $35 after six mos but even then, is it enough to say "I'll sign"?

ustegrl · Sep 20, 2006

Hi, Luilui_604!
Is CPMC sponsoring Nurses for Immigrant visa?
Thanks

Hi Im currently working in CPMC, SF too. Unfortunately they do not offer sponsorship right now. Although they used to. Not sure how long ago. Why don't you try UCSF or SF General Hospital? They offer sponsorship for working visa.

ustegrl · Sep 20, 2006

I am being offered a job in a Skilled Nursing Facility in Oakland, California for $29/hour, and I thought that the rate is okay. But reading through this thread makes my hair stand on end!!! I'ts a good thing that I haven't signed anything yet. The direct hire agency is offering to pay all costs directly related to my immigrant petition, but I will be solely responisble for paying the legal fees of my family. The agreement is good for 2 1/2 years. And if I fail to complete the 2 1/2 years, I will be required to pay back all the costs incurred by the agency. But no specific amount was mentioned.
Also, a friend offered to help me land a job in CPMC in San Francisco. Now I have an idea on how much I should be getting per hour, and if it's less than what you guys are stating here in this thread I might as well decline the offer.
Allnurses.com is a life saver!

Hi! CPMC is a good hospital to start with. The starting pay rate for new grads is around $40 an hour. I could refer you to my manager if you need help.

jamila

florencenightingale, BSN, RN · Sep 20, 2006

Hi Im currently working in CPMC, SF too. Unfortunately they do not offer sponsorship right now. Although they used to. Not sure how long ago. Why don't you try UCSF or SF General Hospital? They offer sponsorship for working visa.

Can you tell me where these hospitals are located so I can go there personally and apply? Thanks.