average gpa needed for ny bsn programs???

LovePeaceJoy · May 19, 2004

hello,,i am currently in los angeles..and moving to long island shortly..i have gone online and looked at teh various nursing schools..either adn or bsn in li..and what their requirements are for acceptance..but i need to know the real deal... for example a school might require a 3.0..but in actuality only those with 3.5s may be accepted..i would love to hear what you needed to ahve to get in.....thanks so much xoxojenn
ps..the idea of having to get a 3.5 freaks me out!!!!!!! grrrr

I am working on my pre-clinical courses at BMCC (Borough of Manhattan Community College) in their ADN program. New York City is tough. I have only looked at the ADN programs because I work full time and don't have 50G for a private school. The BSN programs are full time for the most part especially the accelerated programs at Columbia and NYU. Also those two programs are VERY VERY expensive. Subsequently, many people are trying to get into the ADN programs at the community colleges in NYC and the surrounding areas (ie Long Island) such as BMCC, LaGuardia CC, Queensborough CC, Bronx CC and Nassau CC. These programs are extremely competitive! Most of them will tell you that you need at least a 2.5 in your preclinicals to be accepted into the programs. However, acceptance in most of the programs is based on the strength of the pool of applicants that have completed the pre-clinicals. In other words, if there are only 30 seats and the 30th person to get a seat has a 3.5, if you have a 3.49, you ain't gettin' in. Some schools have waiting lists, so a person can sit out a number of semesters before being accepted. Other schools like BMCC don't have a waiting list, but if you don't make the cut the first time you can reapply in subsequent semesters. The whole problem with that is, if you have a 2.9, more than likely you will never get into their program unless it was a very bad year for the other students in the pool. To top it off, BMCC had 200 applicants apply to their day program alone this year! From what I understand Hunter is equally as difficult because it is also a CUNY school and is almost free compared to the private schools.

From your posting, you said you would like to live in Long Island. I don't know what area you plan on living in, but when I checked out Nassau Community College I was told last years group of applicants to the clinical sequence all had an average of 4.0. Molloy has a BSN program in that area but I don't know anything about their acceptance policy.

Please don't let any of this discourage you. Keep in mind that I am only referencing my research on the ADN level and for one BSN program. People in other programs in NYC and the surrounding area may have different experiences. I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide.

prunepie · May 19, 2004

hmm so can i ask a couple more questions..is any of the process first come first serve..or is it strictly by gpa?

also i wonder how so many people get into to busy schools with 3.0s for example..

and do you think..given the adn programs are flooded with applicants that private universities would be more lienient with gpa's.

i am not asking this in order to slack off on my grades..but if i try my hardest and come away with a 3.0-3.5 ...it sounds like things are SO competitive that i am afraid i might not be accepted anywhere..or am i just being dramatic lol

i am planning on living in nassau or suffolk... depends where my fiancee lands a job back there..his family is in massepequa xoxo thanks so much ! xo jenn

LovePeaceJoy · May 20, 2004

hmm so can i ask a couple more questions..is any of the process first come first serve..or is it strictly by gpa?
also i wonder how so many people get into to busy schools with 3.0s for example..
and do you think..given the adn programs are flooded with applicants that private universities would be more lienient with gpa's.
i am not asking this in order to slack off on my grades..but if i try my hardest and come away with a 3.0-3.5 ...it sounds like things are SO competitive that i am afraid i might not be accepted anywhere..or am i just being dramatic lol
i am planning on living in nassau or suffolk... depends where my fiancee lands a job back there..his family is in massepequa xoxo thanks so much ! xo jenn

None of the ADN programs I looked at were first come, first serve. All of the programs I was looking at required you to take preclinical courses before being accepted into the clinical sequence. As I mentioned, I didn't look too much into the BSN programs because of the time and money issue. I chose BMCC because they have an evening and part time weekend schedule. I did take a glance at the accelerated BSN/MSN program (these are programs where you already have a bachelors) at NYU, Columbia, and SUNY Downstate and these programs require you to have a 3.0 GPA when entering, however none of these programs are part time. I really don't know how competitive they are.

As for the community colleges, anyone can get in, but keep in mind that they will only transfer in credits that pertain to the nursing major. I have a bachelors and only 3 classes could be transfered into the nursing program. One of those courses I declined to have tranferred in because I received a B- for it. Instead I will repeat it so I can get an A. I don't know if you're aware, but when I talk about pre-reqs for all of the schools I mentioned, they consist of 4 courses. At BMCC the four courses are English 101, Math 104 (Dosages), A&P 101, and Psychology 101. An overall average of 2.5 is needed but its the average of those 4 course which decides if you can start the clinical sequence.

As for Long Island, the only CC I know anything about is Nassau Community College, which is not too much of a drive from Massapequa.

This link should also help you in your search:

http://www.allnursingschools.com/find/NY/nursing-schools.php

prunepie · May 20, 2004

thankyou so much... i have done alot of research on the schools websites in ny/long island..but they can say a 2.5 but in reality like you said...they can turn away people who have a 3.5 if everyones gps are very high..sigh. i am in los angeles now taking nursing prereqs like sociology, psych , health..and if we arent able to move this summer..will take in the fall chemistry microbiology etc.

i have about 40 other general ed units from going to a community college before. i am broke as a joke as mostof us are..but part of me is feeling that i realllly want to go for a bsn..since i do have general ed units behind me and i do not have a previous bachelors. i really appreciate all of your help :) how is school going for you??? xo jenn

SBUalum03 · May 20, 2004

thankyou so much... i have done alot of research on the schools websites in ny/long island..but they can say a 2.5 but in reality like you said...they can turn away people who have a 3.5 if everyones gps are very high..sigh. i am in los angeles now taking nursing prereqs like sociology, psych , health..and if we arent able to move this summer..will take in the fall chemistry microbiology etc.
i have about 40 other general ed units from going to a community college before. i am broke as a joke as mostof us are..but part of me is feeling that i realllly want to go for a bsn..since i do have general ed units behind me and i do not have a previous bachelors. i really appreciate all of your help :) how is school going for you??? xo jenn

IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT A BSN PROGRAM YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK IN STONY BROOKS NURSING PROGRAM. IT'S ON THE ISLAND (SUFFOLK COUNTY) AND IT'S A STATE SCHOOL SO TUITION IS ABOUT $3,000/SEMESTER. SUNY FARMINGDALE IS ANOTHER SCHOOL YOU CAN LOOK INTO. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DECISION.

mrsabradford · May 20, 2004

None of the ADN programs I looked at were first come, first serve. All of the programs I was looking at required you to take preclinical courses before being accepted into the clinical sequence. As I mentioned, I didn't look too much into the BSN programs because of the time and money issue. I chose BMCC because they have an evening and part time weekend schedule. I did take a glance at the accelerated BSN/MSN program (these are programs where you already have a bachelors) at NYU, Columbia, and SUNY Downstate and these programs require you to have a 3.0 GPA when entering, however none of these programs are part time. I really don't know how competitive they are.
As for the community colleges, anyone can get in, but keep in mind that they will only transfer in credits that pertain to the nursing major. I have a bachelors and only 3 classes could be transfered into the nursing program. One of those courses I declined to have tranferred in because I received a B- for it. Instead I will repeat it so I can get an A. I don't know if you're aware, but when I talk about pre-reqs for all of the schools I mentioned, they consist of 4 courses. At BMCC the four courses are English 101, Math 104 (Dosages), A&P 101, and Psychology 101. An overall average of 2.5 is needed but its the average of those 4 course which decides if you can start the clinical sequence.
As for Long Island, the only CC I know anything about is Nassau Community College, which is not too much of a drive from Massapequa.
This link should also help you in your search:
http://www.allnursingschools.com/find/NY/nursing-schools.php

Ditto!

What classes have you presently taken? I have taken English 101 and will be taking A&P I and Psy 100.

1styear · May 20, 2004

I just finished my first year at nassau community College in Garden City(Long Island). For September admission I was told the cut off for the upcoming year was 3.3 for the day program. Some semesters it's higher and other semesters it's lower. I know Molloy and Adelphi are two schools that are very lenient on the gpa they accept but you have to be able to pay high tuition. For BSN --I would say Stonybrook and SUNY Downstate are the two that offer great programs with equally nice tuition.