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Are all for-profit hospitals soul-sucking despots that truly only care about the bottom line

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I can only speak for the one I worked for, but I've heard enough horror stories that make me think, "Yes!".  The place I
worked for continually allowed in extremely rude patients that would call the shots.  They'd stay for six weeks of
antibiotic therapy and all the while make our lives a living hell.  They would refuse assessments, yell at us if we were
14 minutes "late" for their PRN narcotics, which by the way they would set their alarm clocks for.  They would routinely
fire nurses, which actually make us happy, because we didn't have to deal with the idiots any longer.  Because they were
an income source, the hospital allowed them back time after time.

We worked short SO much.  And, we got called off often.  So, not only were our shifts extremely ridiculous, we were also
being shorted pay due to the frequent mandatory call-offs.  They also called off CNAs routinely, which of course made our
shifts even more difficult.  I could go on, but I won't.  I worked there a year and a month and said, "Sayonara!".

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catsmeow1972 has 15 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a OR RN.

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The last for-profit I worked for was pure unadulterated hell. They could not keep staff (gee wonder why?) The de facto manager of my department was a completely unqualified ASN nurse that lied about her job history (among other things) claiming management experience that she did not have and ran off anyone who was a potential challenge to her ‘authority.’ (Me included) I’m not even sure what her actual job title was since she changed it from day to day (manager, interim director, charge nurse, god, etc.) Her daily behavior was the antithesis of professional and frankly quite scary. I’ve described the place before as a cross between a daycare and a badly run fast food joint. There was more than one doc whose horrible ( and I believe illegal ) behavior was also tolerated because well, $$$$. 

 

 

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osceteacher has 15 years experience and works as a Practice educator.

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On 3/21/2019 at 1:10 AM, Sour Lemon said:

Yes, that's how the world generally works.

This is how private healthcare generally works*

The rest of the developed world's hospitals do not generally work like this. 

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RobbiRN has 25 years experience as a RN and works as a Emergency RN.

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Yes, but they are only a small part of a lineup of "soul-sucking despots that truly only care about the bottom line." Some suck souls indirectly through the art of profiteering. I believe the correct order based on profit margins is: 1) pharma, 2) equipment makers, 3) health insurance companies, 4) for-profit hospitals, 5) bought and paid for legislators who enable the abuse, 6) lawyers who are having a good day, and 7) non-profit hospitals which rank last because their average CEO salary is only about $4 million.

All profiteering at the cost of human lives is pathetic, immoral, and unsustainable at current levels. The beam will cry out from the woodwork. 

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morelostthanfound has 27 years experience as a BSN and works as a R.N..

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2 hours ago, RobbiRN said:

Yes, but they are only a small part of a lineup of "soul-sucking despots that truly only care about the bottom line." Some suck souls indirectly through the art of profiteering. I believe the correct order based on profit margins is: 1) pharma, 2) equipment makers, 3) health insurance companies, 4) for-profit hospitals, 5) bought and paid for legislators who enable the abuse, 6) lawyers who are having a good day, and 7) non-profit hospitals which rank last because their average CEO salary is only about $4 million.

All profiteering at the cost of human lives is pathetic, immoral, and unsustainable at current levels. The beam will cry out from the woodwork. 

Love this^^  thank you!

 

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NurseSpeedy has 18 years experience as a ADN, LPN, RN and works as a Nurse.

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On 3/20/2019 at 9:31 PM, morelostthanfound said:

I've worked in maybe 12 or 13 hospitals and it matters little-'non' or 'for profit', religiously affiliated or secular and yes, it has been my opinion that they are all 'soul-sucking despots' to greater or lesser degrees-welcome to corporate healthcare!

I’ve worked both profit and nonprofit also. 

They both also had that stupid in-service years ago for the script of “I have the time!”😡 service model. The idea has been rephrased many times over the years but has the same general meaning....still searching for the magic pixie dust to make all the rainbows and butterflies happen during all the soul sucking.

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LibraNurse27 has 5 years experience.

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My hospital promotes people who worked bedside for 6 months to be directors of nursing, quality managers, etc and suddenly they are telling nurses with 20 years of bedside experience what they are doing wrong. Also a nurse who worked exclusively mother baby is now the manager of all the Med/Surg units. We are supposed to say the word “prefer” as much as possible... do you prefer your pills with juice or water? So that when the survey goes out patients will answer positively the question “Did staff take into account your preferences?” Subliminal brainwashing 👍most of our patients “prefer” to go out and shoot meth into their PICC and then wonder why they got CLABSI 🤦🏻‍♀️

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JLRN5555 has 10 years experience as a BSN and works as a RN.

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I do not believe all for profit hospitals are necessarily soul sucking, but I do feel used sometimes by them. We do the hard work and they see all the benefits go straight into their pockets. I do see some for profit places where they do offer extensive training to nurses, but I see this as a part of greater plan and only offer these trainings to benefit more. 

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laflaca has 5 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a Public High School Nurse.

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Yes.  Because "for-profit" means the shareholders by definition come first. And what's good for shareholders is cutting labor costs, because it's much harder to cut equipment/pharma/building costs, which means understaffing, which means there is no way to provide good patient care.  

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hawaiicarl has 28 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a Charge Nurse.

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Sorry soul sucking is not in the budget, we would have to charge an extra co-pay for that.

 

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On 3/23/2019 at 9:20 AM, NurseSpeedy said:

I’ve worked both profit and nonprofit also. 

They both also had that stupid in-service years ago for the script of “I have the time!”😡 service model. The idea has been rephrased many times over the years but has the same general meaning....still searching for the magic pixie dust to make all the rainbows and butterflies happen during all the soul sucking.

Ah, yes, the ole "I have the time".  Lol  Ridiculous model.

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catsmeow1972 has 15 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a OR RN.

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9 minutes ago, jag nurse said:

Ah, yes, the ole "I have the time".  Lol  Ridiculous model.

Oh sweet baby Jesus...I hate scripted crap. Seriously, does whoever is coming up with this really think the patients are that dumb. I’ve had my turn at being the patient plenty of times and nobody ever recited one of those dumb scripts at me. I think I’d have busted out laughing at the complete absurdity.

I think it’s gotten to where Press Ganey and it’s evil step children are trying for ‘good ratings’ from people that are never going to be satisfied no matter what you do for them. The fact that they left the hospital in better shape than when they came in is less important than the notion that they got crappy care because the nurse was 5 min late with thier PRN med.

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