AANP position on NP education and post-grad training

  1. AANP recently released this statement on the current status of NP education and addresses how post-graduate training programs should be called:

    http://www.aanp.org/images/documents...mentmay6th.pdf

    my take home message:
    • AANP is happy with our current educational model.
    • AANP is happy with the current accreditation standards (CCNE and ACEN).
    • AANP does not want to use "residency" in referring to any type of clinical training whether within the NP program itself or after licensure.
    • Post-graduate/post-licensure training programs should be called "fellowships".
    • even though the consensus model screwed GNP's royally, the Geronotological Advanced Practice Nurses Association still managed to sit down on a roundtable with AANP with a straight face.


    thoughts?
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  3. by   chillnurse
    Considering how bad our current education model is its not much a suprise. I'm all for no residencies. And less theory and leadership.
  4. by   chillnurse
    Need more hard science. Good for critical thinking. I think a lot of aprn lack understanding due to our lack of hard science. And usually those that disagree are the ones who can't cut it. If you don't like hard and in depth science. Stay an Rn. And if you like theory be a theorist. Anatomy and physiology are a must. And undergraduate lvl lola and p doesn't cut it
  5. by   HornsRN
    Ive always thought nursing needed more anatomy/physiology. I lost count how many times my teachers in my BSN program said,"this is just anatomy so we will skip....".
  6. by   chillnurse
    I am probably the most FOR person for 1 year post grad residencies. pay us 50k a year, give us benefits, free food, and teach us cool stuff, and id gladly take a pay cut in half for a year. esp if it was in a giant trauma center. also, i want a free subscription to epocrates and UPTODATE.
    Also give us some nice specialties to pick from. cards, pulm, ccu, emergency, derm, neuro, etc. I do not see why specialist physicians are not for this (unless they are). a fresh well trained NP with hard skills right and ready to help.


    In before all the people come in and say "oh i went thru np skewl i no how tu doo dat already" liar, no you don't
  7. by   HornsRN
    Quote from chillnurse
    I am probably the most FOR person for 1 year post grad residencies. pay us 50k a year, give us benefits, free food, and teach us cool stuff, and id gladly take a pay cut in half for a year. esp if it was in a giant trauma center. also, i want a free subscription to epocrates and UPTODATE.
    Also give us some nice specialties to pick from. cards, pulm, ccu, emergency, derm, neuro, etc. I do not see why specialist physicians are not for this (unless they are). a fresh well trained NP with hard skills right and ready to help.
    Well I know the PAs wouldn't be thrilled about it. I wonder about the ability to further education post program via residency as well. It is not a bad idea.
  8. by   MurseJJ
    Quote from HornsRN
    Well I know the PAs wouldn't be thrilled about it. I wonder about the ability to further education post program via residency as well. It is not a bad idea.
    There are a number of fellowships/residencies for NPs currently, though not as many as those available to PAs yet. I've seen them in areas such as family practice, dermatology, cardiology, critical care, neurology, trauma, emergency, pain/palliative, and GI/hepatology. Hopefully more are created.
  9. by   MurseJJ
    Quote from chillnurse
    Need more hard science. Good for critical thinking. I think a lot of aprn lack understanding due to our lack of hard science. And usually those that disagree are the ones who can't cut it. If you don't like hard and in depth science. Stay an Rn. And if you like theory be a theorist. Anatomy and physiology are a must. And undergraduate lvl lola and p doesn't cut it
    Don't all NP programs include advanced physiology and advanced pathophysiology? I do agree about Anatomy though. I seriously thought about PA, but decided on Nursing for various reasons (will be starting BSN in the Fall), and it seems that many, if not most PA programs include anatomy at the graduate level (as do some CRNA programs).
  10. by   anh06005
    I would have LOVED more sciences in my MSN program! It'd be nice to know a little more nitty gritty as to WHY this med works for this or WHY this disease increases risk of this.

    I would have loved another microbiology class. Sure I know some common organisms for some common diseases but I know it'd be good to know MORE to better treat my patients.

    I had a class about nursing theory and nursing research for my BSN. Is there really much difference in the upper level class? Nursing theories don't change. When I took the class 2 years ago the theories were the same as when I took the undergrad class 6 years ago.

    Never once have I thought "What nursing theory will I use today?"
    I have thought "What medication would I need for this disease process?"

    I love nursing and I love nurse practitioners (as I'm about to graduate as one). I feel like we can do SO much but I also feel like our educations are given the shaft in some ways. It seems like we should be more prepared to assess, diagnose, and treat diseases for the best patient outcomes. I'm not sure how many of my MSN classes contributed to that.

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