Nursing in France - page 5

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Is there anyone who can fill me in on RN jobs in France. I prefer the city hospiitals, I work in ICU currently. I have many years exp in Med Surg also. Would like to hear from someone. If you know about pay scale and such... Read More


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    Quote from Silverdragon102
    When I was top E working in the hospital I got more than this with enhancements but working as a practice nurse with no enhancements it was roughly this wage £1300 a month. The thing with working as a practice nurse you tend not to get the same annual increament like you do in the hospital til you reach the top of grade. GP's don't have to pay the same as you get in a hospital and I even get less sick time. I have had just 1 rise in 3 yrs but this doe not include the annual pay rise in april that everyone gets. Unsociable enhancements make a lot of difference
    Oh dear, I hadn't realised that being a GP based nurse meant that you get much less money. I was always under the impression that when you get to that stage, you'b be on a minimum of £1800+ per month. I was planning of doing that job when I've settled in to have kids, that was going to be my 'sick of clinical work' plan ( if I hadn't moved to France by then ).
    Oh well, perhaps the new banding system would make a difference? When will the government properly appreciate us in this country?
    Well, all the best - x-
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    Quote from Era
    Oh dear, I hadn't realised that being a GP based nurse meant that you get much less money. I was always under the impression that when you get to that stage, you'b be on a minimum of £1800+ per month. I was planning of doing that job when I've settled in to have kids, that was going to be my 'sick of clinical work' plan ( if I hadn't moved to France by then ).
    Oh well, perhaps the new banding system would make a difference? When will the government properly appreciate us in this country?
    Well, all the best - x-

    A lot of gp's have opted to either take on certain parts of AFC or none I don't think I have heard of any GP's taking it all on. Pay will go up but you will be lucky to find a min of £1800+ a month. to get that sort of money you will need plenty of courses under your belt. ie CHD, Diabetes, Cervical screening, Asthma?COPD and others. Can take a few yrs to be trained as a practice nurse Especially as more stuff is being mored to primary care from secondary care
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    Quote from Era
    Hello! Cheers for that! I am on nights now too hehehehe
    Working in France sounds complicated. I do want to try though... I have a naggy fiance! It does sound exciting but at the same time, rather frightening.
    The apartment sounds cheap.. I don't mind if it isn't in Paris, I'll commute if I have to. 1950 Euro's not bad huh? And that's after tax? You also mentioned you work as an agency, how did you go on about applying for that? Is it like doing an agency shift in London? Sorry about the 3rd degree!! I need all the info I can get
    Have a good shift!
    I have worked with a Belgium nurse last night, and he told me he went to the DDASS for his papers and it was very quick and easy. As soon as your diploma will be recognized as a European one, it looks like you won't have any difficulties working in one or another European country.

    For me, it would be difficult to stop agency nursing. You have a better salary (20%) plus 10% more if you work at night, you are your own boss and you don't know all the team problems!!! When your papers will be done, just go to an agency (Appel medical, quick medical service...they have websites), they will ask you for a copy of your diploma, of your identity card and of your bank account to be paid automatically each month. Then they will ask you where you want to work, where you don't want, in which unit, at day, at night, 12 hours or 7 hours..... YOU are the boss. YOU decide the days you work, the days you rest. They will call you to propose assignments that match what you want, and you just say YES or NO. As simply as that!!! You decide of the length of your assignment too. For now, I prefer very short assignments from 1 night to a week maximum, so I have the feeling to be totally free. My fiancé is living in NYC, so I can join him every time I find a good price for plane ticket! I work some weeks and then spend some time there. And when he come, I just stop working or less. It's always up to you.
    In France, as soon as you are working, you automatically pay for social security. So if you are sick you can be cured at once. Every time you are sick at home, you still have 75% of your salary until you go back to work, with a doctor certificate of course.
    You have automatically an insurance too. For instance, I had a back injury two months ago while helping a patient. So I went to the ER and the doctor said I needed kinesitherapy for some weeks. So he made a declaration for Social security that I hurt myself at work (accident du travail) and social security paid 100% of the fee for me to be cured.
    You will find some English patients too, that prefer to be cured in France. Last night I had one, and I asked him why he always come back in that clinic to be cured. He told me you never find such an establishment with all the facilities in London. He said it is all old there and staff is not as numerous as here, and he had to wait to be operated, when here it is done the day after he enters the unit.
    So you will talk English more often than you think!!!:hatparty: The night before I had one from Scottland. And especially in summer time with the tourists, you will meet more. Plus Paris is full of American and English people. If you want to meet them, just go to the Starbucks, he he he!!!

    Voilà ! Just let me know if I can still help you.
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    Quote from Dudette
    I have worked with a Belgium nurse last night, and he told me he went to the DDASS for his papers and it was very quick and easy. As soon as your diploma will be recognized as a European one, it looks like you won't have any difficulties working in one or another European country.

    For me, it would be difficult to stop agency nursing. You have a better salary (20%) plus 10% more if you work at night, you are your own boss and you don't know all the team problems!!! When your papers will be done, just go to an agency (Appel medical, quick medical service...they have websites), they will ask you for a copy of your diploma, of your identity card and of your bank account to be paid automatically each month. Then they will ask you where you want to work, where you don't want, in which unit, at day, at night, 12 hours or 7 hours..... YOU are the boss. YOU decide the days you work, the days you rest. They will call you to propose assignments that match what you want, and you just say YES or NO. As simply as that!!! You decide of the length of your assignment too. For now, I prefer very short assignments from 1 night to a week maximum, so I have the feeling to be totally free. My fiancé is living in NYC, so I can join him every time I find a good price for plane ticket! I work some weeks and then spend some time there. And when he come, I just stop working or less. It's always up to you.
    In France, as soon as you are working, you automatically pay for social security. So if you are sick you can be cured at once. Every time you are sick at home, you still have 75% of your salary until you go back to work, with a doctor certificate of course.
    You have automatically an insurance too. For instance, I had a back injury two months ago while helping a patient. So I went to the ER and the doctor said I needed kinesitherapy for some weeks. So he made a declaration for Social security that I hurt myself at work (accident du travail) and social security paid 100% of the fee for me to be cured.
    You will find some English patients too, that prefer to be cured in France. Last night I had one, and I asked him why he always come back in that clinic to be cured. He told me you never find such an establishment with all the facilities in London. He said it is all old there and staff is not as numerous as here, and he had to wait to be operated, when here it is done the day after he enters the unit.
    So you will talk English more often than you think!!!:hatparty: The night before I had one from Scottland. And especially in summer time with the tourists, you will meet more. Plus Paris is full of American and English people. If you want to meet them, just go to the Starbucks, he he he!!!

    Voilà ! Just let me know if I can still help you.
    Sounds very cool!!!
    Thank you so much for that. Must sleep now, just finished nights!
    Cheers again :hatparty:
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    Quote from Dudette
    Hi and sorry for answering so late, but I just read your question !
    All I can tell you, is that a friend of my Mum who is a RN, had to do a stage of 6 months after 10 years of non activity, to be allowed to work as a nurse again. I know it is very long, but I don't know any course to return to the profession.
    We have a lot of nurses coming from Spain, and I can tell you their french is not always very good when they arrive. But working every day, they improve it very very quickly, and we are used to their accent too so the comunication is going better quickly. It is not a problem for long. Plus, I know lots of them came directly to the clinic to look for a job and I wonder if it is not the clinic that makes the papers for them. Do you have a European diploma?
    Hi Dudette,

    Many thanks for your reply. I would be happy to do a 'stage' of any length in order to return to nursing. I seem to be having great difficulty in finding one. I have spent a few days with an infirmière liberal and have applied to 2 hospitals - I will keep chasing. I do have a European Diploma. I find it very frustrating to be out of work. I am focusing on improving my language skills.

    Al
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    Hi, I read your post with interest. I am french and I have just finished my english nursing diploma. I would like to go back home as I feel homesick after nearly 15 years in London.... problem is I only have 8 months nursing experience (6 in acute renal unit and 2 in a renal and pancreas transplant ward). I sadly had to leave my last post because of childcare problem. I am trying to do some bank work in my local hospital to gain wider experience but I am worried about my overall nursing skills. You know during my training I was more a HCA than a student to teach, consequently I am not that confident with IVs, blood etc.....I have the feeling that french nurses have access to better training and once out of nursing school are quite at ease with IVs, cannulation, blood infusion, am I wrong? Tell me what you think and If I were to go back now how easy would it be to find a job with that amount of experience and what training would I get access to? Thank you
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    Hello Al!

    I am a Nursing student in New York City / USA. We do not have access to any French language books for Medical or Nursing. Do you know where they can be found in Paris? I am going in mid-March and would like to pick some up while I am there. I would appreciate your help!

    Thanks,
    Ruben
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    Hello NYsante, I am a French RN and I am in NYC for 6 weeks now. In France we have a big store that is the equivalent of the Barnes and Noble here, it is named "FNAC". Their website is www.fnac.fr and you will find lots of them in Paris. There is one in Les Halles... There is a very good serie of books which is recommended by some teachers at nursing school : "Les nouveaux cahiers de l'infirmière". I almost have them all and I brought them with me here in NYC because they are very helpful and easy to read and understand with a lot of illustrations.
    I would also recommend you another book about the technical part "soins infirmiers - fiches techniques" by Maloine. This one explains every single act we practice at the bedside.

    I just received my number from the social security office and my green card and so I will apply to some hospitals for a job in Manhattan. May I ask you where in NY you are working and how is it?

    Voilà, do not hesitate to ask if you wanted to know something else.

    Salut !!!!!

    Dudette
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    do they have lvns in germany


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