German Nurses anywhere? - page 3

Hi, I'm a german nurse, graduated from a german nursing school and would like to get in touch with other german nurses in the US. So, if you are one or know one, post a reply.... Read More

  1. by   shot_z
    Quote from magdalenaRN,BSN
    Hallo German nurses,
    I have a german nursing licence and worked in a longterm facility for a short time before coming to the US in 1990. Obtained US licence in 1999. Presently I work in a acute care and really love it. But I am always open for new more challenging job offers.
    Nursing here is more advanced than in Germany as far as task oriented skills. How is every one doing? d to know there are more german nurses here.
    Forgive me if this is a stupid question but what are transcripts? All I have from my nursing school are notes and reportcards and then of course the diploma itself!?

    Susanne
    Last edit by shot_z on Sep 24, '08
  2. by   shot_z
    Quote from jdagol
    hi Jutta,
    Im a lisence German nurse, finished my nursing education in Germany and worked as a nurse in an ICU i Koeln. Now im working as a Clinical technician CTICU at the Cleveland Clinic Founadation here in Cleveland, Ohio while waiting for my paper works to be processed.

    jdagol
    Hi jdagol,

    how do you work as a Clinical Technician CTICU if you don't have your papers? Did you have to get a certificate or do any schooling for that?

    Susanne
  3. by   shot_z
    Quote from magdalenaRN,BSN
    Sascha,
    As long as you have a greencard you should have no problem finding a job (especially with the nursing shortage in US) , I would check with the California Nursing Board what you need to do to get US licence and yes they will need you transcripts from Germany. In my case I had to do the whole nursing education from the beginning. It was worth it after all.
    Good luck with your licence.
    Magdalena,
    do you know why you had to do the whole education from the beginning? Why didn't they accept your german education?

    Susanne
  4. by   shot_z
    Quote from magdalenaRN,BSN
    Sascha,
    As long as you have a greencard you should have no problem finding a job (especially with the nursing shortage in US) , I would check with the California Nursing Board what you need to do to get US licence and yes they will need you transcripts from Germany. In my case I had to do the whole nursing education from the beginning. It was worth it after all.
    Good luck with your licence.
    Forgive me if thsi is a stupid question but what are transcripts? All I have from my nursing school are notes and reportcards and then of course the diploma itself!?

    Susanne
  5. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from shot_z
    Forgive me if thsi is a stupid question but what are transcripts? All I have from my nursing school are notes and reportcards and then of course the diploma itself!?

    Susanne
    Transcripts have to be sent by your nursing school and it is a breakdown of your nurse training giving hours both theory and practical in areas you have done like Paeds, mental health, midwifery and general adult
  6. by   denise387
    Do you know if there are more opportunities for Nurse Practitioners from the US looking for a job in Germany? Or another specialty degree?
  7. by   Silverdragon102
    It may be hard, we have seen a few German nurses post on how hard it has been for them to find work. Also depends on whether they will accept your NP qualification
  8. by   Mieke
    German Health System is NOT paying as well as US hospitals. They mostly not hiring on a full time basis either....and you don't have much influence as to when and where you work. Could I say that Nurses in Germany are being treated as professionals? Not really. Most of them have occupation related ailments by the time they are 45....you rarely see a nurse on a regular unit past the age of 55. I read a book about the workings of cults some time ago....after the 4th chapter it reminded me of "Nursing in Germany". If you are used to working with lifters/belts regularly, if you don't want to work more than 2 WE a month.....stay were you are. Ever done ten 12hr night shifts in 14 days? Try agency nursing for lower pay than that of a nurse with a standard contract.....and find out....

    Now, if you go into teaching your life will be that of a "teacher".....but I have known school nurses throw the towel, because they felt guilty about providing more "canon fodder"....for the system. How would you teach clinicals to a studend who is being exploited as a cheap worker for the first 2 years out of 3.....it is the dual educational system. What if work density is so high.....that quality client care is not to be seen in the majority of institutions (one could say all, but it would only prove one example to disprove my point....therefore majortrity).

    According to labor market studies the time spent in this profession after graduation is less than 5 years.....

    And why are German nurses turning toward Switzerland, Austria, Scandinavia, Great Britain, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, US, Canada......???

    Nevertheless, I wish you good luck....someone will have to take care of my fellow countrymen, while I will be working abroad.

    Take care,
    Mieke
  9. by   quietdiary
    Hello everyone,

    I have a question regarding nursing credentials and programs in Germany. Please advise on my understanding:

    1. a 3-year hospital-based program can lead to a Urkunde-Krankenpfleger. This is equivelant to a R.N., right?

    2. a 2-year hospital-based further professional training in psychiatric nursing for registered nurses can lead to the professional title of Psychiatric Nurse. Is this equivelant to a RPN? Will there be a "Urkunde" or some other certificate awarded to the graduates of this RPN training?

    Thanks,
  10. by   5cats
    Urkunde= Diploma, so yes it's the RN (good old fashioned diploma), 2 years further training used to get you a certificate, that would state your further training. I heard there are some university based courses now available, but I'm not uptodate anymore with the german system, and what you would gain doing it. I only know the german system sucks.

    5cats
  11. by   quietdiary
    Thank you 5cats. I wonder if there is anyone in Germany who could explain the 2-yr further training program in detail. I heard this is available for nurses but it is not regulated by the state, therefore, it might not be recognized elsewhere...
  12. by   Mieke
    Well, you are right the 3-year diploma being the equivalent of the US RN. As far as I know the exact content of certifications to any type of specialty nursing ("Fachkrankenpfleger/in) is not regulated by law, but depends on where you obtain it. Are you a US trained RN? Why on earth would you be interested to work in Germany? German nurses will go anywhere else, if they are not bound by constraints such as family, funds, or language. Job satisfaction is low. Work density is VERY high (that is maybe you like being the only nurse with 20-35 patients on a night shift; and LTC/SNF you may be the ONLY RN for sometimes 80-120 patients.....). I stopped paying attention to the misery, but a newspaper article in the late '90s stated that many nurses will leave the profession 3-5 yrs after nursing school, to pursue other careers. I AM so happy to be sitting in Las Vegas with my RN license granted in July. Got my BLS and ACLS and now in the application process/interviewing. And if you like to work in Germany, concentrate on ICU/CCU nursing. Work as an agency nurse (granted pay will be lower than regular position), with a critical care certification YOU will have the freedom to determine when, where and how much you work. Once you have worked 11-12 full days in a row, and/or 5 WE one after another; shifts lasting 13 hrs you will get the drift. Of course there are all kinds of laws and regs protecting workers/nurses, but the reality looks different. And there are also laws stipulating that patient care has priority.....
    Not much of what you were asking, but my two cents worth. And dying of curiosity what you are up to......

    Take care,
    Mieke
  13. by   molara
    hello everyone, am also a german nurse since 2005 and will love to work as a rn in atlanta or anywhere else in the us but i just dont know where to start!can anyone pls help me

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