Criminal charges against WI Nurse - page 5

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What are your thoughts on the criminal charges brought against the nurse who made a med error at St. Mary's hospital ? I feel this is inappropriate action and sends the wrong message to many nurses. Mistakes happen. I feel very... Read More


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    Felony charges were dropped. A couple years probation and license suspension/restrictions. Civil suit resulted in a few million $ to the baby. Mother of the victim was given custody. Father of the baby tried to get custody. Not likely,especially after he and some of his drug-dealing gangbanger posse were arrested in the beating and torturing of a crack customer. Call me biased,but I have to question whether Jasmine was really the quasi-saint she was made out to be in the press given that her friends beat and stabbed a guy,shot him with a BB gun,poured drain opener on him and kept him tied up naked for 2 days. Nice,huh?
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    Felony charges were dropped. A couple years probation and license suspension/restrictions. Civil suit resulted in a few million $ to the baby. Mother of the victim was given custody. Father of the baby tried to get custody. Not likely,especially after he and some of his drug-dealing gangbanger posse were arrested in the beating and torturing of a crack customer. Call me biased,but I have to question whether Jasmine was really the quasi-saint she was made out to be in the press given that her friends beat and stabbed a guy,shot him with a BB gun,poured drain opener on him and kept him tied up naked for 2 days. Nice,huh?
    Jasmine should not be judged based on who her friends were and what they did. Their actions truly were horrible, but Jasmine was a victim of a horrible mistake that should make us all take a step back and remember to first do not harm!!
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    If a pilot makes an error and the plane crashes because there was error and someone dies are they held liable?

    If a busdriver makes the wrong turn, a mistake, and gets in an accident and someone dies are they held liable?

    Just putting it in the right context.

    Sounds like she didn't follow safety procedures "scanning the bag" or checking th "5 rights"


    Why should we not be held accountable when we don't follow the rules set up to protect our patients AND ourselves.
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    I just wanted to say that once I made a mistake that cost my patient a lot -

    I tortured myself for months - I would have given a hand to that person to make things better.

    We should be held accountable. But we are all human too and we have all made mistakes.

    I'm just saying that mercy is an option too. That nurse and many other ones that made errors deserve our pity too.
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    I think she should loose her license, I was suspended just cause an inmate called my house. I did not kill anyone. About crimial charges it is no different then a drunk killing someone driving. She needed to read orders and that is why I always double checked with another nurse on a medication of that type with another nurse. I feel bad for her and unfortunately people think nurses are'nt human therefore don't make mistakes. A nurse should be given a second chance. But WI does'nt see it that way. I wish this nurse well. If this is her first mistake again we need to be given a second chance criminals are given many chances until they lock them up. Sorry if I sound harsh but I am bitter myself just cause a stupid inmate got hold of my number. Good luck for both of us.
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    I agree with many of the comments made on both sides. This was truly tragic and scary. My comment was going to be that just because someone is charged with a criminal offense, that does not necessary mean that they are found guilty and face jail time. And as it turned out, Thao did get probation instead. I also don't think that this will set a precedent for future nursing mistakes, because as has been pointed out she greatly deviated from the standard of care.

    If you think about child neglect, the state does not have to prove INTENT to charge parents. NEGLECT is a reckless disregard. Unfortunately, by deviating so greatly from the standard of care I feel that this did justify a criminal charge. There were safety standards in place that she disregarded and a patient DIED. I also feel that probation rather than jail time was appropriate. Giving her jail time would have been a waste and served no purpose. I am also glad that she does not have a felony on her record from this.
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    I agree that this incident, as described in the article, is not the kind of unintentional oversight most of us think of when we think "med error." It was a whole series of negligent actions, ignoring the established protocols for safe practice, that resulted in a death. While I'm not usually a fan of criminal prosecutions for healthcare providers, I do think this is the kind of situation that does warrant criminal charges. While the error(s) were not intentional, there was a blatant disregard for safe practice. People get criminally charged for various types of "negligence" all the time, and this seems to me like one of those scenarios -- this was gross negligence (or appears to have been, from the discussion here).
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    ELKPARK I agree with you, a death happened due to she was probably in a hurry and did not do her checks. She should have gotten more then suspension and probation. she obviously does not care about her patient, her time to get home is more important. Again I bring up my situation, I did not kill any one, I did not make a med error, I did not go to work drunk, I did not steal drugs, I am not a drug addict. I had a stupid inmate somehow get my information and I am treated like a criminal as she should be not me. Very angry about this out come. She got a slap on the wrist for murder.
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    I know I am late to the party on this one, but I am in nursing school and I came across this on the internet when I was performing a search on med errors. While I honestly think this medication error was unfortunate and an example of gross negligence the situation definately doesn't warrant criminal charges. In order for an act to be a crime there must exist mens rea (criminal mind), or more appropriately a malicious intent, and auctus reus (the act). The appropriate course of action in this example is suspension or revocation of license and civil proceedings. The DA grossly misinterpreted the most basic principles governing our legal system in order to create an example out of some poor nurse who made a mistake. So those of you suggesting that she should of gone to jail need to stick to what you know. If every nurse or physician were brought up on criminal charges for making mistakes we would have no health care workforce because they would all be in jail.
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