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No. 10
from sharrie
Old Apr 15, 2009, 05:19 PM

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Could I please ask that all members remain respectful in their discussions and keep on topic. I have edited some of the posts within this thread as they were detracting from the original post and at risk of taking this thread off topic.

To return to the Original Post

Originally Posted by SoundofMusic View Post
What has happened in the last year or so with travel nursing upsets me. I mean -- I had always hoped that once I worked my way up, got some decent experience, that I, too, would also be able to try out some travel positions where I could travel and ALSO increase my salary, in a much deserved way, and continue to work at a decent level of pay throughout my career.

Now that travel nursing seems essentially to be on its way out, I just feel like administrators, bean counters, the so-called "economic crisis" etc has all just come together to screw nurses once again out of opportunities to further and better themselves in a very difficult career.

Does anyone wonder if it's all a bit manufactured? I mean, our hospital has just AXED travel contracts dramatically in a very short time. Could they be taking advantage of the situation, or has it truly been necessary to cut it out?

Makes me mad that I will now be relegated to the same job, the same lower end pay scale, for as long as I want a "steady job." Seems nurses are once again given the short end of the stick and kept down, so to speak. We tried, through travel nursing, to better our lot in life, and now this.

Does anyone else feel the same way? I sometimes cannot believe that nurses just lay down and accept it. I have seen many very experienced nurses recently sign on as staff at our hospital, and I assume they have taken major cuts in pay in exchange for this so-called "security." I just have to wonder if we've all been roiled again.
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No. 11
from Goss
Old Apr 17, 2009, 09:10 AM

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I am currently a traveler, and this has been a big topic of discussion both among fellow travelers and among core staff. My view is that just like the overall economic tailspin, there are multiple forces at work here that all interact in a way to discourage travel nursing positions at the current time. You have a population afraid of losing jobs, and afraid of spending money, and therefore not electing for non-essential surgeries... therefore a lower hospital inpatient census. You have growing numbers of the uninsured... less non-acute preventative care being seen coupled with less payment to hospitals. You have hospitals with monetary concerns and budget freezes. Travel nurses cost hospitals more money, so it makes utmost sense to avoid using them if possible. The lower patient census levels and the increased feeling of worry across the board that staff have regarding the fear of job loss add up to a relative decrease in the need for travelers.

It's my opinion that the whole travel nursing industry is inherently not geared for the current economy. It's an industry geared toward excess -- hospitals with too many patients, and enough money to be okay with paying extra money to both agencies and pampered nurses looking to make quick short-term profit (again, I am a travel nurse speaking here... not trying to insult anyone ... traveling has its own stresses, but by definition its own rewards too). I'm not saying at ALL that it's a BAD industry, but just one that thrives during profitable and relatively care-free economic climates.

I know I personally made decisions based on the previous economy relating to nursing education and employment: I sought education at a high-cost private school instead of waiting for two to three years to get into an affordable community college program (much like people bought more expensive homes because the economy supported it at the time). I did it because I planned on travel nursing within three years of graduation, and I expected to make a higher salary as a result and to be able to pay off all the debt I accrued during my education. Well, now that idea has turned on its head and I (like so many other travelers) am shopping around for a staff position to lay low with until ... hopefully ... the economy improves in a way that allows for all the interacting factors to open the way for travel nursing to flourish again.
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No. 12
from Goss
Old Apr 17, 2009, 09:22 AM

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One more thing: I didn't actually answer the thread topic directly... NO I don't think travel nursing is dead. Injured? For sure. I expect that a large number of travelers (including myself) will step aside and not bother with the higher stress of finding a job matching their travel-nursing needs while a core group of travelers with continue to fill the needs that will remain out there. There will always be short-term needs at hospitals caused by geography and the natural fluctuations of acuity levels out there. Therefore there will be a need for travel nurses to exist. It just won't be like it has been, where a prospective travel can almost pick any dream city to work in whenever they want to. I consider myself a fair-weather traveler. I'm about to step aside and take shelter until the skies clear again. I expect that they will, but like everyone else I don't know when.
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No. 13
from kmruddrn
Old Apr 19, 2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bagladyrn View Post
I do think there will always be some need for travelers and that the market will expand again as the economy improves and as hospitals feel the effect of shortstaffing and overloading OT on their permanent staff in the form of poor patient outcomes (and satisfaction) and loss of staff to attrition, illness and burnout.
My company has even cut OT. I guess next step is teaching patients how to monitor themselves!
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No. 14
Old Apr 19, 2009, 01:42 AM

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Thanks Goss, very well put!!!
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No. 15
from sjsch
Old Apr 20, 2009, 08:10 AM

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Thanks BagLady and Goss. I am a fair weather traveler for many of the same reasons. I wanted to advance my degree, and in my home town area, I found I would have to work one full time and one per diem job in order to afford it, and then I couldn't afford the time. I was able to venture out as a traveler while advancing my degree with online classes. I have had great assignments and awesome opportunities. I am now classified as 'temporary staff' with a 6 month contract (with an option to 'extend') at a respectable facility.
I would not recommend anyone venture out as a new traveler at this time, unless they have seriously weighed their personal pros/cons. That said, I loved it, and will absolutely do it again. Loved the freedom and adventure... but I will wait for the turn around, knowing it will happen. In the mean while, I will leave it to the real pros like Bagladyrn, whose sage advice as a seasoned traveler on this forum has helped me make good travel nurse decisions for myself...
Cheers to Guss and Baglady!
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No. 16
from sjsch
Old Apr 20, 2009, 08:17 AM

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Sorry Goss, I called you Guss...Cheers to Goss (and Guss too! why not)
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No. 17
from MONICAINKY
Old Apr 29, 2009, 08:06 PM

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So do I understand that emphatically some of the experienced travelers would advise those considering beginning to travel that now is not a good time to start at all?

I've been out of school 4 years and just now feel ready clinically to comfortably travel and am disappointed to find that the opportunities are not as great as they were.

What is the fear exactly....that there will be no 2nd contract available after taking the first one?

Sorry to be so silly about it---forgive me, I'm new.
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No. 18
from deege58
Old Apr 29, 2009, 08:44 PM

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Speaking for myself, I am calling it a day for a while when this contract is up in July. I could probably renew again, but I'm tired and I want to go home....how long I stay home will depend on the job situation there.
No, it's not the second contract that is the problem at this time, it's the first...test the waters for yourself, you dont have to take an assignment if you dont want it..get with a good agency, (careful though there are many to avoid) discuss your desires and see where it takes you..take care
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No. 19
Old Apr 30, 2009, 12:06 AM
Updated Apr 30, 2009 at 12:13 AM by Valerie Salva

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Originally Posted by bagladyrn View Post
I will challenge your thoughts on a couple of points here:
First of all, your assertion that travelers are pursuing the career only for the payrate: I initially took a paycut to become a traveler, and if I had remained at my previous (federal) job would have moved up the grades and steps to a much higher annual salary than I make now. Many of us work as travelers for love of travel, dislike of hospital politics, or as in my case family scattered around the country with whom I enjoy spending time.
Secondly, your opinion that travel nursing cannot be considered a consistent way to make a living: I've been making my living strictly as a traveler since October of 1996 - the longest I've stayed in any "position". If you are extremely flexible and persistent, it is still possible now - especially as an "oldie" who is well established with a company.
I agree though that I don't see the current employment contract as a "plot", simply an effect of the overall economic problems. I do think there will always be some need for travelers and that the market will expand again as the economy improves and as hospitals feel the effect of shortstaffing and overloading OT on their permanent staff in the form of poor patient outcomes (and satisfaction) and loss of staff to attrition, illness and burnout.
I agree with you 100%.

I have been traveling for almost five years. I did not get into traveling for the supposed "big bucks." I became a traveler for the following reasons:

1. Too many nurses where I live- very few local jobs available.

2. I hate work place politics and do not like being under the thumb and at the mercy of an employer.

3. I do not like the boredom, tedium and frustration that comes w/ being a reg employee. I enjoy variety, and want to avoid burn-out!

4. The experience- traveling has helped me to grow tremendously as a nurse and as a person.

I have now traveled longer than I've ever stayed at a regular job.

Travel contracts don't come my way at near the speed or volume that they did prior to the economic downturn- and agencies and facilities are now asking for more nursing experience in general, and they want experienced travelers- but there are still enough opportunities coming my way, (knock wood).

Imo, if facilities treated their regular staff well, there would be very little need for travelers. But, I don't see employers getting a clue any time soon.
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