Hospital cancelled my contract!?! - page 7

Okay, so I took my first assignment at John Hopkins in Baltimore and I've been there for three weeks. Well, I travel with another nurse that was contracted with me for 13 weeks on another unit. Well,... Read More

  1. by   loricatus
    Quote from karengeorgebsrn
    dear t.ns,

    i have had plenty of experience, however, many here who have attacked statistics, and budgetary restraints just "think" from their perspective. by the way for those who want to know "why" i posted on this link it was because the topic was suggested to "another link" that i had posted on.
    fyi, we have not attacked statistics because you have yet to provide any to support your [unsubstantiated] assertions. we are still waiting for you provide anything other than your opinion that you tout as fact-the sort of know-it-all, 'i say it it so and therefore i am the only one who knows anything' mentality. you have made blatant accusations that are, in fact, libelous without these statistics to back up your statements! also, it really doesn't matter how many years you had a nursing degree if you never learned how to be a nurse or actually practiced nursing (rather than administration)-does it?

    the truth is administrative nursing professions do know the horror stories; i have always had an "open door" policy, and made sure my staff (whoever they are) remain "honored and respected" and that includes those who worked as t.ns who were peers or hired to fill a major glut, due to policy changes, and a "clean out" when big administration said "clear this mess up." meaning across the board changes from the top and termination of many.
    sitting behind a desk with an open door & listening to others, without actual hands-on knowledge, does not make you an authority!
    i have had women (a few men) come in and tell me they were "alcoholic" and do t.n because they avoid responsibility, i have others who tell me "we deserve the money and benefits and screw administration," and yet others who tell me "we are in danger coming in here right now don't you see?" so none of this is new to me, but what many do not see is it's about the "care" clients eventually receive. all of you (myself as well) are potential "clients." in acute care we refer to them as patients, in your realm they may be clients/customers, whatever... most of the nurses you will find here do not practice in ltc or rehab. with the random drug testing, the intense screening process for tns & the reporting procedures in place in the acute care setting (you so seem to detest), nurses who are abusers are quickly flushed out of the system and, will never make it into the acute care setting. i cannot believe that you are truthful about what you have just said, unless these statments were being made during a rehab session (in which you were part of)... please restrict you commentaries to areas in which you may have some actual knowledge. btw, why such an interest in chronic pain being treated with only narcotics, and the forum for former nurse addicts?

    cost-effective care has removed acuity and you will see this in the next few years. large acute care hospitals will eventually become one small floor of 24 hour turn around, and sub-acute (ltc) will be the only insurability paid. ltc as it stands now has little acceptance for t.ns but will pay higher in some areas then acute care for regular staff nurses for they see the future arriving. of course, you are entitled to your opinion; but, you make such statements as if you.... [well, everyone who reads this knows exactly where i'm going with this, so it is best to not say it]

    i would suggest for the many here who truly consider this their calling to shop around for there are agencies and companies willing to pay you "much more" then what the many posters have decried as "low pay, having to leave family, being away from home et al." because most of the t.ns who speak honestly to me tell me "i do not want to stay at one place nor do i care about team spirit, but what i can make, and where i want to go."
    how would you know about this?
    times "they are a changing" and with that in mind prepare yourself for more than what looks like "less shifts," but perks being offered by the true corporate powers in retaining what they term "stable, responsible nurses" either in high retention bonuses plus relocation, to the educational benefits so many here want and would allow them to become masters prepared and even a few n.p's. in texas???? thanks for the laugh

    i have very limited time to post, and i just happened to link into this post topic; when i do post it is usually in areas (several) where there is a sincere need "to know" and to share with others of the same mindset as myself.

    this theory has nothing to do with me but the true outcome of what cost-effective care brings to the "medical industry." i would hope that those of you who really want the bucks find the agencies paying them, and for the others who truly complain about leaving family and being forced to travel that you find a staff position somewhere local where you can practice your profession nearby. a link to this theory would be appreciated-just saying so does not make it so. still waiting for some statistically evidence to prove your point. also, until you have held an actual staff position for long term, you do have some nerve trying to tell others to do what you have not. maybe if you would just demonstrate a modicum of humility, we could take you and you blanket statements a tad seriously

    have a great day!

    karen g.
    if you have to post again, please let us all know where you work so you don't have to be bothered by us and we by you.
    [font="comic sans ms"]have a great day, sweetie. bless your heart!
  2. by   KatieBell
    I would like to make it clear that while I may not have been seen as attacking you karen, I find your opinions abhorrent and misinformed.


    Experience working as a student nurse or Nurses Aide is not considered experience when people are hiring, so I am not sure why you feel so strongly to insist that this is experience.

    I start a new job virtually every 13 weeks. It does not take me but a few mintues to figure out where IV set ups are, and policy and protocol manuals are. Never mind about the trash can. It just doesn't take me long, I've been at a lot of facilities now, and I usually ask what kind of IV set ups, pumps and stuff they use ahead of time, so I know. This yearI have yet to see a computer system or IV system or monitor I dont know.

    My Agency does plenty for me with the 50% or so that it takes. I have no complaints about them, they pay for my certs and take care of many details.

    Why, if I am asked can't I settle in?? I don't want to. At this point in my life, I really want to travel. It allows me to spend time with my farflung family without being a visitor burden. This year I have been ableto have an assignmetn nearboth of my Grandparents suffering from alzeheimers disease, living in 2 different states. I was able to go and help my sister out for 3 months with her new baby, and I am now heading down to Florida to spend some time with my BF. As a staff nurse, this would not have been possible.

    You don't seem entirely coherent.
    Last edit by KatieBell on Mar 2, '08 : Reason: again for typos.
  3. by   KarenGeorgeBSRN
    loricatus,

    catch your breath and read all the posts prior.

    you might just be surprised!

    god bless you!

    karen g.

    Quote from loricatus
    if you have to post again, please let us all know where you work so you don't have to be bothered by us and we by you.
    have a great day, sweetie. bless your heart!
  4. by   caliotter3
    This thread seems to have gone way off topic from the OP in May 07 where the discussion was about being cancelled from one's travel assignment.
  5. by   traumaliz
    Pitt COUnty---beware, they yse the dreaded PBDS. Also are very iffy about keeping travelers right now.
  6. by   KarenGeorgeBSRN
    To all,

    My original comment had to do with corporate financial and budgetary restraints affecting those in the T.N. specialty.

    I agree it went off topic, and that overall this forum is not hateful in content. Many will see cancellations due to the stated issue "money" and I hope all here consider being a part of the bigger solution. It affects nursing as a profession, and does not come from nursing administration.

    Thanks!

    Karen G.
  7. by   KarenGeorgeBSRN
    Dear Katie,

    No one is reading what I write period. There is too much negative anger going on here. Everytime I offer solutions, or rationale it is misquoted or misread.

    Read my first job as a RN in Administration and working (2) other specialties that is correct and I do not have to prove my credentials to people who are going to put me on their dart board due to corporate budgetary restraints.

    I enjoy your dialogue you are honest. Travel for you is a choice to experience different areas of the country; but overall this huge influx will change due to the almighty dollar.

    Agencies are making far in excess of what the working T.N. sees period. Ask your agency or several if you travel with more than one; what they make off your stipend. They should be able to answer you. The outsourcing is due to the higher costs of all the people being paid for (1) nurse to clock in on a temporary basis.

    Now I truly hope this focus on my posts ends for all here. I wish all of you good wishes in your professional dreams and goals, and when we face change (profession) as a whole there are reasons why the first and foremost is "money."

    Thanks,

    Karen G.

    The truth is the corporate budget does not allow for what the agency pays you. It is not about your 50% it is about what they are paying for you as (1) nurse to be purchased on a temporary basis.

    Katie it is not just about "you" or (1) nurse it is the overall costs and your one experience is not the case for ALL ok. Coherent yes, factual yes, and this is the reality as to why many will see cancellations.

    Quote from KatieBell
    I would like to make it clear that while I may not have been seen as attacking you karen, I find your opinions abhorrent and misinformed.


    Experience working as a student nurse or Nurses Aide is not considered experience when people are hiring, so I am not sure why you feel so strongly to insist that this is experience.

    I start a new job virtually every 13 weeks. It does not take me but a few mintues to figure out where IV set ups are, and policy and protocol manuals are. Never mind about the trash can. It just doesn't take me long, I've been at a lot of facilities now, and I usually ask what kind of IV set ups, pumps and stuff they use ahead of time, so I know. This yearI have yet to see a computer system or IV system or monitor I dont know.

    My Agency does plenty for me with the 50% or so that it takes. I have no complaints about them, they pay for my certs and take care of many details.

    Why, if I am asked can't I settle in?? I don't want to. At this point in my life, I really want to travel. It allows me to spend time with my farflung family without being a visitor burden. This year I have been ableto have an assignmetn nearboth of my Grandparents suffering from alzeheimers disease, living in 2 different states. I was able to go and help my sister out for 3 months with her new baby, and I am now heading down to Florida to spend some time with my BF. As a staff nurse, this would not have been possible.

    You don't seem entirely coherent.
    Last edit by KarenGeorgeBSRN on Mar 2, '08
  8. by   suzanne4
    This thread was started in May, 2007 and has strayed severely from the topic at hand.

    Thread closed.

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