El Centro students Spring '06 - page 56

i know some of us have received our letters so i was wondering who else i will be making this journey with for the next 2 years. :wavey: my name is allison shaffer and it's nice to meet... Read More

  1. by   lalajenn
    Quote from faceinbooks82
    The other day in class a girl asked me what renal meant! I know for sure some of these people don't know their A&P!!! How do you almost complete first semester and NOT know what renal means????????????? Isn't it good to know some really good candidates were turned away for someone who obviously cheated their way through A&P......it's disgusting.
    Oh wow! There have been a couple of times someone has ask a question that they should have already known the answer to. It really is amazing. I can understand forgetting some A&P but forgetting what renal is???
  2. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    Quote from lalajenn
    Oh wow! There have been a couple of times someone has ask a question that they should have already known the answer to. It really is amazing. I can understand forgetting some A&P but forgetting what renal is???

    Exactly, renal is a pretty easy term to remember.


    I agree there should be a 'district test' & a 'district book'.

    I busted my butt in A&P 1. I made flash cards, read chapters, taped lectures, took notes, retyped notes, listened to taped lectures, read the typed notes while recording myself & listed to the CD in my truck everytime I got in. I went in about 2 hours early & went to the science resource room to study with a couple of other students. I took pics, made quizzes, and was constantly studying.


    We did get curves in A&P 1, but I set the 1st two lecture curves & the first two lab exams. Actually, the 1st lab exam didn't offer a curve b/c I made a 100.

    Even without the curve, I'd still have finished with a high A.

    So, what I'm saying is that you just never know the situation.

    Maybe an A&P review class during the program would help?
  3. by   a_clay
    So does this mean that those of us applying before August to be accepted in Spring 2007 will have to take Patho and Pharm before we can apply? It sure does look like they would have included this in the "packet" or would have revised the packet to include this. I just want to cry! It's Friday night and I am going to an information session at El Centro on Monday morning. I hope they aren't just going to throw this in there by sticking a paper on the door. This seems so unfair to let people know this way.

    Here it is 2:20 am and I am so worried about this that I can't even sleep. I know I will have my butt up bright and early (if I ever do fall asleep) so I can go to EC and read the paper myself.
    Last edit by a_clay on May 13, '06
  4. by   LKG6
    Quote from amyindallas
    It's Friday night and I am going to an information session at El Centro on Monday morning.
    Here it is 2:20 am and I am so worried about this that I can't even sleep. I know I will have my butt up bright and early (if I ever do fall asleep) so I can go to EC and read the paper myself.
    Amy, you will find out everything on Monday. Please, don't worry about it now. And let us know what happened at the info session.
    Katie
  5. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from amyindallas
    So does this mean that those of us applying before August to be accepted in Spring 2007 will have to take Patho and Pharm before we can apply? It sure does look like they would have included this in the "packet" or would have revised the packet to include this. I just want to cry! It's Friday night and I am going to an information session at El Centro on Monday morning. I hope they aren't just going to throw this in there by sticking a paper on the door. This seems so unfair to let people know this way.

    Here it is 2:20 am and I am so worried about this that I can't even sleep. I know I will have my butt up bright and early (if I ever do fall asleep) so I can go to EC and read the paper myself.

    Yes, make sure you let us know what happends at the info session. I have good friends wanting to get into EC/NL in the near future. They would go ahead and take those classes online or this summer.
  6. by   mysterious_one
    i remember reading this post on the door, too. But i thought it was for radiology students , as far as i remember.
  7. by   JaxiaKiley
    Exactly, Fun! I studied my butt off and worked hard to learn everything. But, just reading these boards, some students at other schools said they didn't have to know this, or they didn't have to know that. Heck, there were times I even felt like someone with a multiple choice test had an advantage over my class, because our tests were just blank lines -- we just had to know! We didn't have a 25% chance of getting it right on every question, ya know? But, I'm over that now

    Some classes get more bonus point chances, or easier bonus point chances. Some have better curves. Some are better about telling you *exactly* what will be on the test, instead of saying "know chapters 1-9." That is why I wish there was something standardized.

    It is hard to believe that someone could get through A&P and not remember what renal means. That is scary!

    Amy - don't stress out. When I went to a session in late March, nobody mentioned it. She did say something about they were looking into making changes eventually, but they would give a 1 year notice. With our apps due a mere couple of months from now, that doesn't seem like enough time. Be sure to let us know what you find out!
  8. by   a_clay
    I was TOTALLY freaked out about this! I just hate not knowing what's going on and feeling helpless about a situation. But I did find out that both are offered this summer. Both are offered online or in classroom. I went ahead and registered for both of the online classes for this summer just in case I do need to take them. I just hope taking both classes at the same time will not be too difficult with working full time. Surely if I can take A&P and another other class for 2 semesters with my work schedule and keep my 4.0 then I can do this. Both are 10 week classes and neither have a lab like A&P and it won't go as fast as a 4 week class. I was just so worried that I wouldn't be able to register because the classes might have already been full and E-connect was down for maintenace and I couldn't check to see if they were full or not or register. I feel much better now that I have the situation under control. I really wasn't planning on taking summer classes this summer, but I am willing to do whatever I need to do to get in this program! I need both of these classes for the RN-BSN program that I want to take so this will mean that I won't have to take them later! In the meantime, I am just going to sit tight and find out for sure on Monday when I go for the info. session.

    Katie, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for posting this info. and giving us a head's up on the situation! I am not even in the program yet and I am so glad to be a part of this supportive little group. The support and encouragement here really makes a huge difference. Thank you so much guys! Here's a hug for each of you: :icon_hug:

    Jaxia, there's still room in both of these classes if you want to reserve yourself a spot for this summer. It doesn't have to be paid until 5-22 so you can always drop it if we find out we don't have to take them and we will know for sure what the deal is before then. Myself, I HAD to register for them so I won't go crazy before I make it to the info. session!


    Quote from sunnyjohn
    Yes, make sure you let us know what happends at the info session. I have good friends wanting to get into EC/NL in the near future. They would go ahead and take those classes online or this summer.
    Last edit by a_clay on May 13, '06
  9. by   a_clay
    I studied my butt off too for A&P 1 and 2! It just irriated me so bad that some people in my class wanted my sympothy and they weren't even working! If I can work 45-50 hours per week PLUS take another class along with A&P both semesters and make A's then ANYONE can, IF they apply themselves. I also made my own notes, flash cards, and study guides. Sometimes my labeling diagrams that I made for a test would be 50+ pages but my lowest grade of either semester was a 89. People would ask me for a copy of my study guide and I was like NO WAY! I worked hard on my study guides and for my grades, they were never handed to me, and I am not handing them to anyone else. That's not doing them a favor and it's not going to help them in nursing school. Maybe I am too harsh, but I know it CAN be done if someone works hard. I am going to step off my soap box now.


    Quote from JaxiaKiley
    Exactly, Fun! I studied my butt off and worked hard to learn everything. But, just reading these boards, some students at other schools said they didn't have to know this, or they didn't have to know that. Heck, there were times I even felt like someone with a multiple choice test had an advantage over my class, because our tests were just blank lines -- we just had to know! We didn't have a 25% chance of getting it right on every question, ya know? But, I'm over that now

    Some classes get more bonus point chances, or easier bonus point chances. Some have better curves. Some are better about telling you *exactly* what will be on the test, instead of saying "know chapters 1-9." That is why I wish there was something standardized.

    It is hard to believe that someone could get through A&P and not remember what renal means. That is scary!

    Amy - don't stress out. When I went to a session in late March, nobody mentioned it. She did say something about they were looking into making changes eventually, but they would give a 1 year notice. With our apps due a mere couple of months from now, that doesn't seem like enough time. Be sure to let us know what you find out!
    Last edit by a_clay on May 13, '06
  10. by   sunnyjohn
    Maybe instead of the NET, El Centro should administer a standardized A&P exam or an A&P exam combined with a basic math and reading exam. If you pass then at least they'll know what you've learned and won't have this problem.

    Or maybe they should require the NET and an A&P exam. I know I took A&P a few years ago. If it wasn't for the fact that I see open bodies in the OR and as a Pathology assistant, I would have forgotten a lot more. Even still I have my study guides I use to keep myself fresh. I would be mortified if I didn't know what RENAL meant; scared for the patient and terrified of a failing grade.

    They could always use the HESI during the program as a predictor of NCLEX success if they got rid of that NET
  11. by   a_clay
    You should ask her if she knows what hepatic means.

    Quote from faceinbooks82
    The other day in class a girl asked me what renal meant! I know for sure some of these people don't know their A&P!!! How do you almost complete first semester and NOT know what renal means????????????? Isn't it good to know some really good candidates were turned away for someone who obviously cheated their way through A&P......it's disgusting.
    Last edit by a_clay on May 13, '06
  12. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from amyindallas
    You should ask her is she knows what hepatic means.
    Goodness, then she'd really be stumped!
  13. by   JaxiaKiley
    Amy -- Thanks for pointing that out. I might just do that. Your session is this coming Monday, right? Like in two days? I need to see if I can log on to E-connect. Since I don't have any classes in DCCCD, last time I tried to register, I had to go to campus and talk to a counselor.

    I was thinking about what it takes to get in...the problem I see with making it harder is that *if* things ever slow down, then they might not be able to fill up their classes and would have to lower the requirements again to require fewer classes. If they require us to have all the support classes finished, then it is not a full time program for the sake of financial aid. Eh, I don't know what the answer is

    At least we all take the same test once we get out of school!

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