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Apr 26, 2006 07:39 PM

Need Tpapn Advice Asap!!!!


Hey everyone,
My problem in a nutshell:
I got drug tested at work a couple of weeks ago & came out + for marijuana. I smoke here and there - one joint may last a week or even longer - it is purely recreational & not a "hard core drug problem". I was reffered to TPAPN by my employer & recieved my primary assessment. My problem is I really don't think that I have this huge drug abuse that is warranted by all that TPAPN entails. The problem isn't that I wouldn't be able to stop smoking (which I could easily do) - it's the program itself. I wouldn't be able to drink alcohol, would have to attend meetings, pay for costs, etc. I was wondering how difficult it would be to refuse TPAPN & take my case to the BNE.
MY QUESTIONS:
Would I have a shot of a "lesser" sentence?
Would I need a lawyer?
Should I just bite the bullet & accept TPAPN?

I have been a nurse for ~30 years & have always come out clean on drug tests. I know that smoking pot is illegal and I know that my actions have consequences that I must own up to. Please any advice would be greatly appreciated. THANKS


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from gauge14iv
Old Apr 26, 2006, 07:47 PM

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If you want to keep a license in Texas it's TPAPN or nuthin. There is no tolerance for any illegal drug use - and that is as it should be whether you agree with it or not. Legal is legal, illegal is not legal. Pretty cut n dried.

You can hire an atty and go before the board, but you will end up going through TPAPN anyway.
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from sjt9721
Old May 03, 2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spookshowbaby
I know that smoking pot is illegal and I know that my actions have consequences that I must own up to.
I think you answered your own question. You got caught. Now you must decide if your nursing license is worth 'the program'.

Good luck to you.
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No. 3
from ZASHAGALKA
Old May 03, 2006, 04:35 PM

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If you decide to decline TPAPN and throw yourself on the mercy of the board - lawyer or not - expect to lose your license.

TPAPN IS your second chance. Without it, you HAVE no second chance. That is normally the board's view. But think about it from THEIR point of view: you come before them - guilty of using illegal drugs - and say that it's not enough of a problem for you to accept any punishment/remedial for it. How do you suppose that there is any way for them to say: OK, go back to handling narcs, go back to working with pts.

You are mistaken if you believe the board is there to serve nurses. The board is there to PROTECT the public by ensuring a high standard for nurses. That being the case - that that is their primary function, how do you suppose that primary function squares with a nurse that dismisses illegal drug abuse as a 'minor problem not worth taking any actions about?'

Is TPAPN difficult? Oh, yes! (I've had peers in it - and most quit first) I don't know that I could go through with it - and I'd probably turn my license in first. (But then, that's why I wouldn't DARE smoke a joint)

Could you convince me, in the abstract, that a joint on a weekend when you're off work is no big deal. Possibly. The problem is this: unlike alcohol - there is NO way to determine by a positive test whether you were impaired at work or not. And so, it doesn't matter your perspective on the issue. The only perspective at issue is there is no way to determine whether you were using at work and no possibility of taking the chance that you weren't.

Think Board = Public protection. They aren't going to take that chance, or your word for it.

It's a bad situation. I feel for you.

~faith,
Timothy.

~faith,
Timothy.
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 02:18 PM

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just to let you know...i am in tpapn. it sucks. the boards are just going to tell you do it or lose it. e mail me if you have any questions. i promise i have had my fair share with the boards to help answer them


Originally Posted by gauge14iv
If you want to keep a license in Texas it's TPAPN or nuthin. There is no tolerance for any illegal drug use - and that is as it should be whether you agree with it or not. Legal is legal, illegal is not legal. Pretty cut n dried.

You can hire an atty and go before the board, but you will end up going through TPAPN anyway.
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 02:37 PM

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The positive aspect of a TPAPN order is the fact that you can permanently avoid the revocation of your license by successfully completing the program. Of course, you would have to stay away from smoking joints for the rest of your career.
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from RNRutRO
Old Nov 27, 2006, 06:43 PM

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So, what did you do? Did you join TPAPN or fight it? And what was the outcome.

I decided to join TPAPN, but wonder if it was the right choice.

Let us know. Hope it's all working out for you either way.
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from sib5
Old Sep 15, 2007, 05:52 PM

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i just tested positive for a drug that i took from my brother that he said he got over the counter i'm being referred to tpapn and i've been given a final warning at my job. do they take into consideration the circimstances or is it just you're positive period. do they look at the fact that i've never tested positive before? i've had lots of drug screens where i work, i feel like i've been harrassed, it's supposed to be random, i've been tested every 4-6 months over the last 10 years and other people i work with haven't been tested since they were hired 10-15 years ago. i need help. i sacrificed so much to get my license. i'm stressing. i know it was stupid for me to trust my brother but i didn't take drugs on purpose. i don't know what to do. any suggestions?
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No. 8
from RNRutRO
Old Sep 16, 2007, 09:56 AM

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Sib5-

Was it a drug that you can get over the counter? If so, I don't see what the problem was.

Might want to get an attorney who is has knowledge about the specifics in TEXAS about your situation. It doesn't seem fair thatyou were referred to TPAPN. Was there a reason for them to test you at work? Was there a narc missing?

Do NOT sign anything until you have all the facts and what your options are. Could something else have caused the "positive" on your ua?

If you'd like, send me a private message if you have more specific questions. You will get through this. TPAPN is NOT fun, but it is doable. Especially if you play by the rules.

Good luck and big hugs your way. I know it's scary, but it's not the end of the world.
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from sib5
Old Sep 16, 2007, 02:28 PM

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it turns out that the drug he gave me was soma. in texas a controlled substance needing a prescription. that's why i'm in trouble. i'm so scared. i sacrificed soo much to go back to school and get my degree and license to lose it over something so stupid. i haven't been able to sleep, i'm scheduled for surgery tomorrow to stop the cause of the pain which is why i was trying something to relieve the pain.
Originally Posted by RNRutRO View Post
Sib5-

Was it a drug that you can get over the counter? If so, I don't see what the problem was.

Might want to get an attorney who is has knowledge about the specifics in TEXAS about your situation. It doesn't seem fair thatyou were referred to TPAPN. Was there a reason for them to test you at work? Was there a narc missing?

Do NOT sign anything until you have all the facts and what your options are. Could something else have caused the "positive" on your ua?

If you'd like, send me a private message if you have more specific questions. You will get through this. TPAPN is NOT fun, but it is doable. Especially if you play by the rules.

Good luck and big hugs your way. I know it's scary, but it's not the end of the world.
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