Yes, I understand everyone is saying don't hurry and lot of ICU experience is good. I got it! Thank you. No one seems to be listening to what I am asking which is about admission!
Hello out there!!!!
Does anyone know specifics about admission preferences? You know the easiest schools
to get into (easy admission). Easy and good schools? Easy but expensive? Easy but generates lots of killers? I want to know.
There's a saying "knowledge for knowledge sake" which means it's good to know as much as possible about everything, including admissions into CRNA programs, even if that knowledge is not going to lead to an immediate action.
So let start again!
Please if anyone knows anything about admission into CRNA programs I would like to hear from you. I am particularly interested in "easy" admission schools for personal reasons. Please stay on topic!
Sep 25, '02
want a year of critical care experience. Some say that has to be ICU. Some will accept ER, PACU, and other units if you can convince them you are competent in the critical care areas(hemodynamics, pharm, etc.). If you have some experience in one of these other areas, then you can use that and apply to the schools that accept them. If not you have to go on your ICU experience.
Another consideration is that application deadlines for 8/03 are now or very soon. You can't apply to school before you graduate.
With that said, 8 months in any area ain't gonna get you in. We all understand that you want to start in Fall '03, but it can't happen. The fact is you don't graduate until 12/02. That's when you happen to have come into the system. So easy admission does not mean 8 months of experience in any program. Easy admission may be an option for 01/04 or 05/04, but not for 8/03.
MUSC-Charleston, SC starts in Jan. CAMC- Charleston, WV starts in May. There are others that I don't know right off hand.
We all understand the question and the answer is you are going to have to work in the ICU (if that's where you have a job already) for a full year.
Last edit by AL bug on Sep 25, '02
Sep 25, '02
Reality check. Why do you want to be a CRNA, and what is the purpose of the question you have asked? I am also troubled by someone looking for "the easiest school."
First, it's going to depend on how you define "easy." Second, understand, it does not matter how easy or hard the school is, we all take the same boards at the end. And rest assured, boards are TOUGH. So, a school that was easy to get into and easy to get through might initially look good, the reality is that if its easy, you won't pass boards, and you won't be a safe practitioner.
As for selection of students from candidate pools, all the schools do it pretty much the same way (see thread on Becoming a CRNA from one who did). So, bottom line, all the schools teach pretty much the same thing, all the schools have pretty much the same selection criteria, and all the schools are the HARDEST FREAKIN THING YOU WILL EVER DO!
Since I have applied, been accepted, started the program, talked to students from several other programs, completed the program, and passed my boards, I am pretty much one who knows. The other folks here are somewhere in the same continuum, and they are aware of what's happening, too. Repeating a question, rudely, I might add, because you didn't like the first answer will get you no where.
Kevin McHugh, CRNA
Last edit by kmchugh on Sep 25, '02
Sep 25, '02
I too have been frustrated by the relative paucity of statistical information with regard to admission at CRNA schools espcially when such information is relatively easy to obtain for other professional schools. One thing to keep in mind is that ALL mainstream CRNA schools are accredidated by the same organization. Therefore, they will all have to meet esentially the same minimal standards (which are presumably adequate).
Having said that some schools probably ARE easier than others depending upon how you define the term. Thus, some schools may offer slightly more flexibility with regard to the scheduling of your clinicals, but might have a biochem professor than will make you pull your hair out (if you are more fortunate than I and still have some left). There probably ARE overall easier schools out there but its like pulling teeth to get that information. It is human nature for people to want others who follow in their foot steps to work at least as hard as did they to reach their goal. However as someone who had the opportunity to attend an Ivy League school if only for a year (MIT for one year before I ran out of money and joined the Navy), I can attest that the school with the "better" reputation is not always the best educator. At MIT the professors presumed that you were a genius and most made almost NO effort to explain even difficult concepts in understandable terms. It seemed like EVERY test question went BEYOND what was even presented in our texts. At my current school (a state University with a mediocre reputation) the resources to facilitate learning are exponentially greater. There are numerous supplemental instruction sections, and free tutors in almost any subject one could imagine. I learned more in three months at Ball State than I did in a whole year at MIT. My BSU "A's" might be less impressive than those I earned at MIT, but the knowledge gained is far more substantial not to mention personally satisfying.
Furthermore, just because one school is relatively easier doesn't mean that it is lacking or deficient. The soldiers who partook in the invasion of Normandy were all heros however the ones which drew the assignment of Sword or Juno beach almost certainly had an EASIER mission than those who landed at Omaha. Consider another analogy Delta Force is considered the most elite fighting force in the nation, if not the world. It is made up of THE BEST from other elite groups such as the Army's Green Berets, Navy SEAL's, and the Air Force's parajumpers. Many say that the toughest route to Delta is through the SEAL's while the easiest is through the Air Force's PJ program. Would someone be a coward, or otherwise lacking if having the goal of becoming a Delta team member they elected to join the Air Force and become a parajumper instead of joining the Navy and becoming a SEAL?
If people don't get at least a little angry or frustrated with you then you probably are not asking the right questions. Life is both a game and a war there IS information which can enhance your chances of success from a "game theory" perspective. However, obtaining that information is not always a simple matter.
Last edit by Roland on Sep 25, '02
Sep 25, '02
Nice post Roland. I love the war analagies.
I understand you're inpatience and desire to move on. I was in the same boat when I graduated from nursing school. If I was you, I would focus my search geograhically. Contact the schools and ask how many applicants they had the previous year. That will give you an indication as to the relative difficulty for acceptance into that program. In the meantime RELAX a little and focus on learning how to be an competent ICU nurse. Like it or not, you're gonna have to put some time in the trenches before you go to anesthesia school.
Last edit by gotosleep on Sep 25, '02