Shortage of Nurse Practitioner Preceptors - page 5

Is there a national shortage of Nurse Practitioners who are willing to precept? I am finding it very difficult to find a preceptor, MD's are very quick to offer what they have, unfortunately as a NP... Read More

  1. Visit  Mom_RN1988 profile page
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    hi mellebelle, are you still available for precepting?
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  2. Visit  AKNanaC profile page
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    Hello,

    I am looking for a preceptor for my last term in FNP program through Kaplan University. I need 185 hours adult and 125 pediatric. At present I live in Texas helping my mother take care of my grandmother, but am willing to travel to complete the required hours. I do hope you are still viewing this site as like nearly every post that I have seen, finding a site has been difficult.
  3. Visit  landylove profile page
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    I am looking for a PNP or FNP preceptor in the Boston area for pediatric clinical. I had a preceptor that just cancelled for health issues and I've been searching........I do not have much time to find a replacement. My class starts next week and I am so frustrated, NP's are literally slamming doors in my face. Every MD and NP that I have contacted promised to call back or said no!. I desperately need some help! Please help.
    contact: 5089300838
    thanks
  4. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    Quote from ashonman
    As Nurses/NPs we are asking and fighting for autonomy but not willing to help train more NPs to fight this cause.

    Are nurses in a way still eating their young? or now they are just putting hot sauce on it!
    Yes. Let's blame the current NPs for just not wanting to help you. They must enjoy watching NP student squirm as they are unable to find a preceptor. That's the logical reason.




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  5. Visit  Soliloquy profile page
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    Yes. Let's blame the current NPs for just not wanting to help you. They must enjoy watching NP student squirm as they are unable to find a preceptor. That's the logical reason.


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    Agreed! It's not bullying to want incentive.
  6. Visit  automotiveRN67 profile page
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    Quote from landylove
    I am looking for a PNP or FNP preceptor in the Boston area for pediatric clinical. I had a preceptor that just cancelled for health issues and I've been searching........I do not have much time to find a replacement. My class starts next week and I am so frustrated, NP's are literally slamming doors in my face. Every MD and NP that I have contacted promised to call back or said no!. I desperately need some help! Please help.
    contact: 5089300838
    thanks

    First off, this thread is so freaking old.

    Second, welcome to the real world. I hope nurses and students who read this take this as a lesson. The real world is hard. Networking and establishing a career at this level is more competitive. All of these online schools are flooding offices with requests for preceptors. Most of the students from these schools want to spend their day ******** about being a nurse. Waste of time.

    Brick and mortar schools spend decades building relationships with hospitals and clinics for their students. Online schools post open enrollment online and sell degrees.
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  7. Visit  traumaRUs profile page
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    Moved to student NP for more appropriate answers.
  8. Visit  Sha-Sha RN profile page
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    Quote from automotiveRN67
    First off, this thread is so freaking old.

    Second, welcome to the real world. I hope nurses and students who read this take this as a lesson. The real world is hard. Networking and establishing a career at this level is more competitive. All of these online schools are flooding offices with requests for preceptors. Most of the students from these schools want to spend their day ******** about being a nurse. Waste of time.

    Brick and mortar schools spend decades building relationships with hospitals and clinics for their students. Online schools post open enrollment online and sell degrees.
    There are many brick and mortar schools with these hospital and clinical relationships you speak off that also have online programs that are not open enrollment. Furthermore, they expect their students to network and find their own preceptors, with very little help from them. The reason being so they can accept more students into their programs -students that they don't have to seek out preceptors for.
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  9. Visit  stickit34 profile page
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    Students truly are wasting their time and money going to schools who do not provide clinical placements, regardless of the school's reputation. If the school is not willing to put forth the time ensuring that you are getting high-quality education through experienced preceptors, then quite honestly they're not that wonderful. They're simply making more money off of you. Networking is a wonderful concept - when you're not coming with a huge amount of liability, not to mention potential loss of income due to seeing less patients amongst other situations that could occur (such as stealing mentioned before). I agree with Juan completely about the loose accreditation these schools have, and unfortunately I fear the public image of the nurse practitioner may be damaged. Of course, we'd need rigorous studies to support this, but by then who knows how the nurse practitioner situation will be.
  10. Visit  zmansc profile page
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    Quote from stickit34
    Students truly are wasting their time and money going to schools who do not provide clinical placements, regardless of the school's reputation.
    While that may be your opinion, some of us do not share it and find it not true. My education is from a top notch university who has been producing top quality providers since 1939.
    Quote from stickit34
    If the school is not willing to put forth the time ensuring that you are getting high-quality education through experienced preceptors, then quite honestly they're not that wonderful. They're simply making more money off of you.
    Just because a school requires the student to identify the preceptor and submit that person to the program for credentialing does not mean that the school is not ensuring the quality of the education in general or of the clinical practicum. My school has very strict policies in place to make sure that the placement is of the highest quality, and to monitor the practicum throughout. However, my school is also 1700 miles away from my hometown, and has very little if any contact with providers here, where I, through networking have extensive contact and information on what providers are here and which ones are willing and interested in precepting students. Who's more likely to know the practitioners in my town me or them?
    Also, my preceptors are not assigned to take a student regardless of their desire, they have chosen to take a student that they know and expect to be a future colleague, that in many cases they hope to hire or work with in the near future. As such, they are much more vested in the outcome of that students education and want to make sure that student becomes the quality provider they believe their patients deserve.

    Quote from stickit34
    Networking is a wonderful concept - when you're not coming with a huge amount of liability, not to mention potential loss of income due to seeing less patients amongst other situations that could occur (such as stealing mentioned before).
    This stream of consciousness is hard to decipher. Networking works wonders, both for finding preceptors and for obtaining contacts and potential job options after school. I continue to be amazed at the people who don't network and then expect to find a preceptor by basically cold calling, or the new equivalent posting on a forum or social networking site that they need a preceptor (I start tomorrow, hope you can help!)! Seriously? What makes you think that will work? Who are you other than a bunch of bits on a screen? I've had friends ask me to be their student, not because I'm that good, but because I built that network, and they want to help me. In my previous 30ish year career, I'd say I created over 1000 jobs, and most of those went to someone in my network. My company also had needs to partner with other companies or purchase services of other companies and in many cases those contracts were first discussed with people I knew in companies that I thought could deliver the services I needed. Networking is how people get jobs, and companies grow. It's how you as an individual will get what you need and how others will find you and your services for their needs.

    Quote from stickit34
    I agree with Juan completely about the loose accreditation these schools have, and unfortunately I fear the public image of the nurse practitioner may be damaged. Of course, we'd need rigorous studies to support this, but by then who knows how the nurse practitioner situation will be.
    I'm not sure what "loose accreditation" we are talking about, but since many of the top programs have shifted to this model, I would question any relationship between programs that require students to identify preceptors and "loose accreditation".

    The fact of the matter is that it is hard to find preceptors when the market is saturated with students crawling out of ever expanding programs in all disciplines (MD/DO/PA/NP). I don't have the numbers in front of me, but the growth in freshly minted members of all of these professions is on a spike due to perceived demand. All programs are stretched in their efforts to find preceptors. More and more programs are moving in this direction.

    As for it ruining the quality of the NP graduates, that is not proven. In fact, my school has been using this model since the 1990s and there has been no drop in quality of provider produced. I would argue that it is schools that lack quality oversight both in didactic systems and clinical that negatively impact the quality of a profession. That goes for B&M schools that place students in clinicals as much as it goes for online schools where the student identifies the preceptor. It goes for MD programs as much as it goes for NP programs. I will say that the newer the program, the faster the growth of the program, the more likely it is to have oversight issues, just because oversight is not inherently built into a program and can be tough to expand during a growth period.
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  11. Visit  orrncnor profile page
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    Is there anyone in the kansas city area that would be willing to precept for family practice? I have been networking, but when those people, say no, and/or take medical students after they tell you that they are taking you then what? I am not sure what else to do, any advise from anyone would be helpful. It just seems very difficult when your in a town that has 2 medical schools and 4 NP programs. I am willing to do what ever it takes, including driving hours for this.
    Last edit by orrncnor on Mar 6
  12. Visit  TFRANKLIN11 profile page
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    I JUST STARTED CLINICALS . I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND ONE FOR ADVANCED HEALTH ASSESMENT BUT AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING ONE FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER. Pediatrics and Women's health is the worst. Does anyone know of any preceptors for Adult, pediatric and women's health in St. Louis, Missouri ?
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    Quote from TFRANKLIN11
    I JUST STARTED CLINICALS . I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND ONE FOR ADVANCED HEALTH ASSESMENT BUT AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING ONE FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER. Pediatrics and Women's health is the worst. Does anyone know of any preceptors for Adult, pediatric and women's health in St. Louis, Missouri ?
    I do but they don't take people who write in caps.
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