Is your NP program challenging enough?

  1. 0 Does anyone out there feel like they are in need of more "tough love" from their program?

    I am enjoying the experience, and there are certainly some challenges, but I find myself wishing it was harder-- with the idea that I will be a better NP if I go through a super-tough program.

    A penny for your thoughts...
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  3. Visit  GoalsInTransition profile page

    About GoalsInTransition

    GoalsInTransition has '2' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Med-Surg, Hospice/Palliative Care'. From 'Maryland'; 35 Years Old; Joined Jun '09; Posts: 96; Likes: 84.

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  4. Visit  futureeastcoastNP profile page
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    It's not a huge secret that lack of standardization leads to many programs that are far too easy. Overall the whole NP education model needs overhauled. I'd say the programs are probably difficult enough at the most reputable programs. I'm surprised to hear that about Vandy though.
    Last edit by futureeastcoastNP on Feb 20, '14
  5. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    I am very tough on my students. I never fail them if they are safe but inspect a lot of them. They rewarding with complaints to their clinic instructors. In the end most are very grateful.
  6. Visit  zmansc profile page
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    What is not difficult about your program? Is it the didactic portion or the clinical portion? Is it that the courses don't seem to be pushing you to learn the patho/science in depth enough? Too many "fluff" courses like theory or role of an NP? Just curious....
  7. Visit  GoalsInTransition profile page
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    Well, I am only part-time, so that may skew my opinion. I have not yet done clinicals, so I am speaking about didactic courses. I felt that the content has not been much more challenging than my undergrad courses. In one sense, I am relieved, since I work full time and have a family; on the other hand, I feel like I need to be "whipped into shape" in order to emerge a competent novice NP.

    I really don't mean to compain-- my school is wonderful- supportive faculty, wonderful lecturers, etc. I guess I was just expecting something super-intense. I'm just curious to know if others feel similarly (or the exact opposite) about their progrms.

    Thanks for the replies. :-)
  8. Visit  futureeastcoastNP profile page
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    Quote from GoalsInTransition
    Well, I am only part-time, so that may skew my opinion. I have not yet done clinicals, so I am speaking about didactic courses. I felt that the content has not been much more challenging than my undergrad courses. In one sense, I am relieved, since I work full time and have a family; on the other hand, I feel like I need to be "whipped into shape" in order to emerge a competent novice NP.

    I really don't mean to compain-- my school is wonderful- supportive faculty, wonderful lecturers, etc. I guess I was just expecting something super-intense. I'm just curious to know if others feel similarly (or the exact opposite) about their progrms.

    Thanks for the replies. :-)
    What sort of courses are you taking so far that don't feel difficult enough? If it's mainly the fluff courses, I understand, because I think most NP students accept that those courses are just that - fluff. If you're talking about Pharmacology, Pathophysiology, etc, then what exactly is too easy? Not enough reading? Exams too basic?

    Another question - which books are you using for pharm and patho? I've noticed that some programs use "nursing" textbooks for these classes. I think nursing textbooks are great for BSN programs, but I think NP programs should be using the medical school pathophys/pharm books.
  9. Visit  zmansc profile page
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    Quote from GoalsInTransition
    Well, I am only part-time, so that may skew my opinion. I have not yet done clinicals, so I am speaking about didactic courses. I felt that the content has not been much more challenging than my undergrad courses. In one sense, I am relieved, since I work full time and have a family; on the other hand, I feel like I need to be "whipped into shape" in order to emerge a competent novice NP.

    I really don't mean to compain-- my school is wonderful- supportive faculty, wonderful lecturers, etc. I guess I was just expecting something super-intense. I'm just curious to know if others feel similarly (or the exact opposite) about their progrms.

    Thanks for the replies. :-)
    Obviously comparing your program to mine, or any other one is like comparing apples to oranges, but having said that, I'll go ahead and start lol

    I was talking with a couple of cohorts at my program and we were lamenting that in what I call the fluff courses, leadership, role of NP, etc., we didn't feel like we really learned much, we did alot of work, mostly paper writing, looking up articles to respond to forum postings, etc., but really learn anything, no, not much. Our program is heavily stacked with these courses at the beginning and the course I all science courses, patho, pharm, care of xxx, all after them. Those courses are where I had to study hard and learned things on a daily basis. So, I have no doubt that if your program is anything like mine, and you are in that early stage of the program, I would concur with that assessment of the program. If that's the case, and the POS has a list of the "science" courses coming up, then enjoy the slow period and get ready for the fun
  10. Visit  GoalsInTransition profile page
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    Health Assessment in particular mystified me. We used the exact same textbook as for undergrad, and the tests were of a similar difficulty level (in my opinion). As a distance student, I don't regularly interact with my classmates to get their feedback. I haven't had what I would consider "fluff" classes yet, but certainly my biggest challenge (pharm) lies ahead. I guess I should count my blessings and await the upcoming "fun". :-)
  11. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    Quote from GoalsInTransition
    Health Assessment in particular mystified me. We used the exact same textbook as for undergrad, and the tests were of a similar difficulty level (in my opinion). As a distance student, I don't regularly interact with my classmates to get their feedback. I haven't had what I would consider "fluff" classes yet, but certainly my biggest challenge (pharm) lies ahead. I guess I should count my blessings and await the upcoming "fun". :-)
    Bates?
  12. Visit  GoalsInTransition profile page
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    Yes indeed
  13. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    It's the gold standard text; many medical shills use it as well.
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  14. Visit  GoalsInTransition profile page
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    I can't complain about a gold-standard, can I?
  15. Visit  Umberlee profile page
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    Part of my undergrad program (ADN to BSN portion) was online but it was tougher than my graduate classes are starting off to be so far. Mu undergrad had timed closed-book tests for which you had to sign an "honesty waiver" promising that you were doing the work yourself, weren't using notes or texts, etc. and the time periods were stringent enough that you had to know the answers pretty quickly. The grading scale at my local college was also tougher (below 93% is a B, etc). My graduate program so far (disclaimer: I'm in my first semester) has an easier grading scale (A is 90-100 etc) and our tests are open book/open note. For my theory class we had two HOURS to take a 30 question quiz and then were allowed to re-take and our best score was kept. I'll be taking my first patho test today which will also be open book and is 25 questions in an hour which I guess is a little more reasonable (no study guide or any clue as to what will be on our test out of over 300 pages of text, but that's another gripe). Assignments have been about on par with what I did undergrad-wise.

    I definitely feel so far like I'm just jumping through hoops and am rehashing things I've already done but hey, if that's what I need to do to prove I deserve a graduate degree then okay I guess. I'm really hoping the meat and potatoes will be my last couple semesters of theory and then of course clinicals. I'm not too worried about the quality of my program so far but I am a little pleasantly surprised and baffled that it has been so easy.


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