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- Feb 19, '10 by chiro-annI too am a chiropractor in school to become a NP. I researched many schools to achieve my goals, but the best solution for my family, work schedule and bank account, was the community college route. It will take 6years this way to become a NP, but I refuse to take out more student loans.
Many of my classes from my bachelor's in biology transferred, but I still have to take some classes to get admitted into the RN program. I am currently working full-time while taking classes. I expect to start this August or next January. It takes two years and i'll still be able to work. I like this route as well as there are so many ADN-BSN or ADN-NP out there and many are affordable. I looked into that new online school in texas, but a felt it was too expensive and I didn't want to travel there. My entire RN degree from the cc will be under $5000. Can't beat that!
I found making appointments with the schools helped greatly in decided which road I would take. I did come across many schools that would not accept my prior classes as they were over five years old, so that narrowed down my list.
- Feb 20, '10 by chiros2005Thanks everybody for your responses. What's your advice for someone who loves chiropractic and the natural alternatives for healing it has to offer, but hates that you have to "sell" it?
As an associate I was asked to keep patients coming back for care long after they should have been discharged. I just couldn't take it. Having to sell chiropractic care in order to survive financially was horrible.
I feel that nurse practitioner allows me to provide a more complete healthcare experience for patients. If they need medicine or a holistic approach I will be able to provide it.
- Feb 20, '10 by chiros2005chiro ann
Will you continue to work as a chiropractor? I am in business for myself with heavy patient days being Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I am hoping to continue to practice while in nursing school.
- Feb 20, '10 by chiro-annchiros2005 - yes, I do plan on continuing to practice while in school. That is another reason why I like to slow route of cc. It seems like it will be easy to rearrange patient's appointment to allow me to go to school or the hospital. I currently work part time for a chiro three days a week and I see my own patients the other days. When I become a RN, I plan to quit my job if I get a nursing job working 3 12hr shifts, but I want to keep my practice. I'll be making the same amount as money working as a nurse full time as an associate chiro part time but atleast i'm getting the necessary nursing experience for NP.
Where are you in this process? I have been lurking on this website for months and only decided to become a posting member when I discovered this thread. Let's keep this up as I am sure it will help many others.
- Feb 21, '10 by chiros2005I work 3 1/2 days a week as an independent contractor and am taking pre-requisites for the 2 cc college programs I plan to apply to. I met with advisors and everything would transfer except biology and chemistry. The CCs of Chicago require that biology and chemistry be taken within the last 5 years. Mine were 7 years old. I didn't argue with the advisors, just signed up to take the classes so I can get the ball rolling.
Yes I agree with keeping the thread going. I know a few chiros looking to expand their practice to include Nurse Practitioner. I currently have a friend and previous chiro classmate who is currently in the nursing program at Ohio State.
I'm really excited about this process!!! I love new challenges
- Mar 19, '10 by chiromed0Well, I guess I'll chime in on the old thread. First Mid-America seems to have bitten off more than it can chew for the time being. Have friends who finished the BSN portion and passed NCLEX so it worked that far. The NP portion fell through the hole b/c they tried to link it to a chiro college (deal killer right there).
Most have gone on to other schools for the NP portion. There's lots of programs out there after you get your BSN anyway so it's your pick. If you're grades are decent and not too old you CAN get some advanced standing credit in the NP programs, just make your case and submit your documents.
I'm about to make the switch. Just waiting to take the NCLEX and then I'm dumping chiro altogether. I'd rather put my time/focus into nursing where time/focus will pay off. Chiropractic (to me) seems like trying to make a living like a poker player: maybe you strike it rich but probably won't and even if you do...you're still a poker player. What difference did you make? But that's just been my experience.
There are more programs opening up all over, online and brick & mortar so just look around and look hard. Lots of them don't advertise. Make calls and talk to people in admissions b/c they do bend the rules to get the classes filled. In general your D.C. degree and a dollar will get you a bag of chips meaning the "DC" portion is academically worthless as a whole but the parts & pieces can transfer to get you something. It helps with admissions I guess proving you can handle graduate work. Mostly though it's the undergrad record that counts.
- Apr 15, '10 by DC1stRE: AccessNDEX
At last! A chiropractor who sees the real benefit to becoming a NP. Kudos to you. I have been thinking of how to get prescription rights etc, without having to become an MD. I think as Chiros we should have the option of doing maybe a couple of semesters of pharmacology etc, and be good to go. Especially as there is and will be a shortage of medical doctors, I became a chiropractor 4 yrs ago in midlife. I love the work we do and the benefits patients recieve from getting out care. However, I get frustrated when I have to refer a patient out to get something simple like pain meds or a cortisol shot. Plus I could use the money!!!! I am currently working as the clinic director in a practice in So California. After three years seeing seeing 150pva;s for someone else I'm ready to make some moves. FNP hopefully one of them. Where do you practice? All the best. MikeLast edit by DC1st on Apr 15, '10
- Apr 16, '10 by chiromed0Quote from DC1stRE: AccessNDEX
At last! A chiropractor who sees the real benefit to becoming a NP. Kudos to you. I have been thinking of how to get prescription rights etc, without having to become an MD. I think as Chiros we should have the option of doing maybe a couple of semesters of pharmacology etc, and be good to go. Especially as there is and will be a shortage of medical doctors, I became a chiropractor 4 yrs ago in midlife. I love the work we do and the benefits patients recieve from getting out care. However, I get frustrated when I have to refer a patient out to get something simple like pain meds or a cortisol shot. Plus I could use the money!!!! I am currently working as the clinic director in a practice in So California. After three years seeing seeing 150pva;s for someone else I'm ready to make some moves. FNP hopefully one of them. Where do you practice? All the best. Mike
DC1st the real benefit to becoming an NP is that you don't have to be a D.C. at all anymore. As it was explained to me by Dr. Scott Wofford of MidAmerica Nurse Practitioner School (A D.C.-R.N. program) an NP can perform everything a D.C. does already and more. Just like with P.T.'s you just don't call it CMT it's Joint Manipulation or whatever cockamamy word somebody dreams up next. In fact, by 2015, the push is for the minimum practice degree for Nurse Practitioners will be the DNP. Recently, there is a huge push to get 100% equal paring with M.D.'s for reimbursement and expanded practice rights. With healthcare now in the spotlight and supposed cost reductions I doubt if this will not occur - even if the Healthcare bill gets repealed or pared down the expanded practice rights will remain. 28 states right now are pushing for those rights. I see more being done on behalf of NP's and as usual nothing being done by the chiropractic profession to expand practice rights. We'd rather quibble over being able to use the term "physician" in Texas instead of real issues that might make us irrelevant in less than 10 years. Unless someone is just in love with the term "chiropractor/ic" then becoming an NP will allow you to practice whatever way you want and whatever amount of holistic healthcare you want to provide w/o the stigma of chiropractic hanging around your neck. It's not about changing our practice...it's about changing our public perception-just be a D.C. in NP's clothing.
- May 26, '10 by B HartI too have been contemplating continuing my education to NP level. I have a question for those who have researched the schools for DC's to obtain the RN and subsequently MSN/NP. I have been a DC for many years and thus my undergraduate degree is back to a 1978 graduation date. When I applied thru Mid America (via Wayland Baptist University), WBU told me I would have to complete 8 humanities courses (english writing/reading, American lit., World lit., two history of the bible courses, history of the U.S.- 1874 to present , and two additional foreign language courses) by the third semester of the nursing program in addition to the nursing courses in order to graduate. Evidently, because my Bachelors from Cal-State University Fullerton is so old, they would not accept certain courses. In addition to my bachelors, I of course hold a DC degree from Cleveland in L.A. In 2009 I also graduated with a Masters in Health Science/Health Education from TUI University (summa cum laude). I hold licenses to practice chiropractic in two states and a nursing home administrator license in California. I have been in continous chiro practice since 1978 and recently started teaching health education part time at a community college.
My question for those who have researched, are there any colleges with MSN/NP nursing programs out there that will accept ASN/RN holders (if I decide to do the community college route) that already have a Masters and bachelors degree that is not specifically in nursing? Or if I obtained a ASN/RN degree/license, would I have to do the BSN degree before entering a MSN/NP program?
Thanks for the help and wish all of you pursuing this route the best.Last edit by B Hart on May 26, '10
- May 26, '10 by chiromed0B Hart. Yes there are programs. No you don't need a BSN. There are plenty of RN-MSN programs out there and many FNP concentrations. You can also do an alternative entry MSN-NP but might have to relocate in which you do not need a nursing degree for entrance. You have many options but moving/location is an issue. You do not need all those background courses that's just for Waylan (b/c they are a Baptist school). Do an internet search for alternative entry MSN...UT Austin has something I believe. There are many RN-MSN programs and most are online/distance ed. You're not dead in the water although getting an ADN will require community college or moving. No distance ed programs yet-there were two but they are not available at the moment to you. (I'm working on that for us D.C.'s). What state are you in? Can you move? Also, CLEP out of those extra courses...just cram & exam if you need to.