2015 DNP Requirement for APNs - page 7

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Hey everyone, Is it true that all NPs and other APNs will have to finish off their DNP in order to achieve NP status after 2015? I'm currently applying for FNP school and I'm getting worried about this. I may or may not... Read More


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    Quote from jlynn2303
    Ok, so what does this mean - American Association of Colleges of Nursing | Frequently Asked Questions

    I'd just like to be able to figure this out once and for all!

    Inquiring Nurses want to know!

    Who actually has the final say, for everyone, for all time?

    Where does the buck stop?
    I am also interested on who has the last word on education requirements. I have my own theory, which is there is no actual single body.
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    Quote from kalevra
    I am also interested on who has the last word on education requirements. I have my own theory, which is there is no actual single body.
    It depends on the type of APN you are on who has the final say in the type of degree needed for certification. With CRNAs it is our Council of Accreditation (COA). The COA determined that all new CRNAs graduating in 2025 or later would graduate with a doctorate degree. With NPs it would be determined by their accrediting center. State BONs can also determine that a minimum degree is needed. The AACN DNP requirement statement is only a suggestion. The statement from the AACN carries no binding weight other than the influence that the AACN has.

    The DNP is not designed to give students more clinical experience. It is supposed to be designed to make APNs experts in the utilization of EBP. Most APNs or other healthcare providers will rarely change their practice from the way they are taught. Currently, it takes 17+ years for research to make it into practice, and for most healthcare providers they will only make a change in their practice when they are forced to.

    American Association of Colleges of Nursing | DNP Fact Sheet

    "INTRODUCING THE DOCTOR OF NURSING PRACTICE

    • In many institutions, advanced practice registered nurses (APRNs), including Nurse Practitioners, Clinical Nurse Specialists, Certified Nurse Mid-Wives, and Certified Nurse Anesthetists, are prepared in master's-degree programs that often carry a credit load equivalent to doctoral degrees in the other health professions. AACN's position statement calls for educating APRNs and nurses seeking top systems/organizational roles in DNP programs.
    • DNP curricula build on traditional master's programs by providing education in evidence-based practice, quality improvement, and systems leadership, among other key areas.
    • The DNP is designed for nurses seeking a terminal degree in nursing practice and offers an alternative to research-focused doctoral programs. DNP-prepared nurses are well-equipped to fully implement the science developed by nurse researchers prepared in PhD, DNSc, and other research-focused nursing doctorates.

    WHY MOVE TO THE DNP?

    • The changing demands of this nation's complex healthcare environment require the highest level of scientific knowledge and practice expertise to assure quality patient outcomes. The Institute of Medicine, Joint Commission, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and other authorities have called for reconceptualizing educational programs that prepare today’s health professionals.
    • Some of the many factors building momentum for change in nursing education at the graduate level include: the rapid expansion of knowledge underlying practice; increased complexity of patient care; national concerns about the quality of care and patient safety; shortages of nursing personnel which demands a higher level of preparation for leaders who can design and assess care; shortages of doctorally-prepared nursing faculty; and increasing educational expectations for the preparation of other members of the healthcare team.
    • In a 2005 report titled Advancing the Nation's Health Needs: NIH Research Training Programs, the National Academy of Sciences called for nursing to develop a non-research clinical doctorate to prepare expert practitioners who can also serve as clinical faculty. AACN's work to advance the DNP is consistent with this call to action.
    • Nursing is moving in the direction of other health professions in the transition to the DNP. Medicine (MD), Dentistry (DDS), Pharmacy (PharmD), Psychology (PsyD), Physical Therapy (DPT), and Audiology (AudD) all offer practice doctorates."
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    Quote from jlynn2303
    Ok, so what does this mean - American Association of Colleges of Nursing | Frequently Asked Questions

    I'd just like to be able to figure this out once and for all!

    Inquiring Nurses want to know!

    Who actually has the final say, for everyone, for all time?

    Where does the buck stop?
    It's not the AACN, but actual state law. Right?
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    Quote from priorities2
    It's not the AACN, but actual state law. Right?
    It is the APNs accrediting organization and the state BON requirements (state law) that can determine the degree needed to practice as an APN.
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    I find PNCB's statement reassuring- http://www.pncb.org/ptistore/resourc.../forms/DNP.pdf
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    Here is what PNCB has to say on the matter. http://www.pncb.org/ptistore/resourc.../forms/DNP.pdf
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    Thanks for the PNCB statement, tryingtohaveitall. It's good that Master's prepared NP's won't have to go back to school. It leaves open, however, the question of what happens to students who are half-way through a Master's NP program. Will we be grandfathered in too? Has anyone seen anything that addresses that point?
    Thanks.
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    One thing I found interesting in their statement was "in the next 10-15 years as the DNP becomes established as the majority framework for PNP education...." While I agree we are closer to that, at this point it seems the MS/MSN programs are still the majority. I know some have said the programs they've seen are now only DNP, but in my area, the ones I've recently checked are all still MS/MSN with the option to go on for a DNP.
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    I have a feeling NP education will end up like RN education. Many organizations recommend BSN as entry to practice yet there are still ADN and even diploma programs. I'm willing to bet there will still be MSN NP programs for the next 30 or 40 years, even if they do become fewer and fewer.
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    How much longer is a DNP compared to a Masters program?
    How much more is a DNP expected to cost?
    Also, with DNP would there still be specialties (ex: family, neonatal, etc)

    I'm working on my BSN and Id like to become an NNP at some point along the line but it sounds like they're really trying to make us jump through some crazy hoops....

    Thanks y'all


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