will universal healthcare ( in the usa) cut RN pay?

Well that would just be a perfect world filled with people who are very responsible and infallible.
But how about facing the reality that many people are going to make bad choices and when you "punish" them for these choices, you also punish their children.
Children who didnt ask to be born to someone without insurance or prenatal care.
Also you cannot make sweeping generalizations about those without access to health insurance or health care. In our profit driven system it under the right set of circumstances, it could easily be you or someone you love facing no treatment options for an illness.

I been hearing this debate off and on for a long time about how if Obama gets universal healthcare to go ( if he gets elected of course)though in the US that nursing pay will be cut dramatically. I would think this has to do with the fact that we would all be working for the government and that there will no longer be competition. There are many people in my nursing class that said they will leave nursing if thats the case. I also talked to several doctors that said the same thing about medicine in general. Im just curious if anyone has some good info about this. Thanks

Well that would just be a perfect world filled with people who are very responsible and infallible.
But how about facing the reality that many people are going to make bad choices and when you "punish" them for these choices, you also punish their children.
Children who didnt ask to be born to someone without insurance or prenatal care.
Also you cannot make sweeping generalizations about those without access to health insurance or health care. In our profit driven system it under the right set of circumstances, it could easily be you or someone you love facing no treatment options for an illness.

In for a penny in for a pound. If people like CRNA don't want to pay for health care. I shouldn't have to pay for anything not directly affecting me...

I say let's be done with it. Dump SS, Medicare, Free Meal programs, Public Education and everything else that doesn't specifically benefit me.

I'll go all out and vote Republican too.

You know what. Those irresponsible parents were innocent children at some point as well and someone said don't punish the children. Lets pull the children out of that environment and put them into an environment that teaches them how to make the correct choices in life.
People are really tired of the old "for the children" argument when you are seeing 4th and 5th generation welfare recipients.
As far as making sweeping generalizations that is what we get from the left about those of us that are tired of paying for everyone else's poor judgment. So the generalizations go both ways here.

But the wealthy, who could still maintain their lifestyle on a small pay cut, are concerned that universal healthcare might make a little dent in their annual salary?

Sorry, that's awful selfish. This world has become SO self-centered... everyone out for themselves. "It's all about me." Makes me SICK.

I like how you always make blatantly prejudiced statement at certain populations.

I am going to bow out of this one. Prejudicial and stereotypical arguments can't be argued with.

If universal health care is so great why does everyone have to be forced into it?

You are right, people do make bad decisions but then they are rewarded for them. Maybe if there were consequences to their actions then people might think before they make the decisions that they do. The idea is that people would stop making those decisions because they know that they will be responsible instead of the government. The children that are affected would be dealt with as needed.

I was actually born to young parents below the poverty line with no health insurance and food stamps and all that jazz. I am so grateful that I live in a country where my single mother was able to utilize public resources and rise out of poverty and encourage me to go to college. I am so glad that I was able to get basic healthcare through medicaid and get food from food stamps when my mother could only afford to feed us and not herself,while she went back to school and worked her way through at taco bell and weighed like 90 lbs so we could be fed.
I really think that your perpetration that all born into poverty dont deserve a chance is pretty disturbing. I am glad that you were not in charge when I was growing up or who knows where I would have ended up.
I certainly hope your personal issues with the poor dont affect your practice and that you still treat your patients with respect regardless of their background.