will universal healthcare ( in the usa) cut RN pay?

People go without, or with minimum, and then when they get really sick, and are on their death bed, we treat them and invest tons of money just to care for them until they die. Who pays the bill?

This is what drives me insane about health care in this country. Once people develop chronic health problems from years of a lack of preventative care we spend tons trying to patch them back up!

Yup and then people fight tooth and nail to stop a system of preventative medicine that would be IMMENSELY cheaper than what we have.

There are people now who have insurance that are non-compliant or don't use their insurance for preventative medicine. Who's to say that universal health care will improve the amount of preventative medicine that is given?

I have seen too many people now that could've, should've, and would've, but didn't.

Yup and then people fight tooth and nail to stop a system of preventative medicine that would be IMMENSELY cheaper than what we have.

That's quite easy, in theory at least. Penalize the people that refuse to partake in preventative care.

In another thread, you decried the state of healthcare in the U.S. where you claim that pregnancy outcomes are inferior to those of 3rd world countries.

I responsed by challenging you to identify a single county in this nation which does not offer FREE prenatal and early-childhood preventive healthcare via county health departments, public health clinics, faith-based initiatives, academic medical centers, etc. My point is that maternal-child health is an area where FREE preventive care is universally available to those who will simpy be responsible enough to use it. But it doesn't happen. The poor outcomes you cite occur largely because irresponsible Americans fail to utilize the free, preventive healthcare that already exists.

Given this situation, how do you propose to fashion a system where Americans will responsibly access free preventive medicine rather than rely on ERs and NICUs for expensive emergency care that may or may not be truly necessary?

In another thread, you decried the state of healthcare in the U.S. where you claim that pregnancy outcomes are inferior to those of 3rd world countries.

I responsed by challenging you to identify a single county in this nation which does not offer FREE prenatal and early-childhood preventive healthcare via county health departments, public health clinics, faith-based initiatives, academic medical centers, etc. My point is that maternal-child health is an area where FREE preventive care is universally available to those who will simpy be responsible enough to use it. But it doesn't happen. The poor outcomes you cite occur largely because irresponsible Americans fail to utilize the free, preventive healthcare that already exists.

Given this situation, how do you propose to fashion a system where Americans will responsibly access free preventive medicine rather than rely on ERs (and NICUs) for expensive emergencies that could have been prevented, and stop using ERs inappropriately for minor issues that don't warrant emergency care?

How in the world do you "penalize" someone who bears absolutely no responsibility or accountability (financial or otherwise) for their healthcare bills?

Sigh.

Can you provide a factual basis for your claims?


<- Not holding his breath...

So Jolie... How do YOU propose to make the healthcare in this country better???