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Old Sep 09, 2009, 10:46 PM

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I am all for healthcare reform. I watched and listened intently to President Obama's speech on healthcare, and love love love what he said. I am in one hundred percent agreement with the way he explained healthcare reform. I don't care if anyone agrees or not. I've never in my life been a "follower" or one to be bothered by standing alone when I feel something is right to support, and healthcare reform as President Obama explained it was right on target, and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overdue in America.

I did NOT hear him say the only healthcare reform would be "government owned", and if any heard that...they really didn't care to lend the speech one hundred percent of their hearing power. Listen to it again. "Government Option Healthcare Plans" are another option for those without health insurance, and for those who simply cannot afford the ones of "free choice". Anyone who has been in nursing a very long time, especially inpatient nursing in the civilian sector knows full well the "division in healthcare" based on "what insurance you have or don't have" and "how much money you have to make yourself smell good to the ones you seek care from. If you didn't know this to be a reality in America for years and years and years now.........you've been living in a plastic bubble.

Carry on.
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from K98
Old Sep 10, 2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfuldoer View Post
I am all for healthcare reform. I watched and listened intently to President Obama's speech on healthcare, and love love love what he said. I am in one hundred percent agreement with the way he explained healthcare reform. I don't care if anyone agrees or not. I've never in my life been a "follower" or one to be bothered by standing alone when I feel something is right to support, and healthcare reform as President Obama explained it was right on target, and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overdue in America.

I did NOT hear him say the only healthcare reform would be "government owned", and if any heard that...they really didn't care to lend the speech one hundred percent of their hearing power. Listen to it again. "Government Option Healthcare Plans" are another option for those without health insurance, and for those who simply cannot afford the ones of "free choice". Anyone who has been in nursing a very long time, especially inpatient nursing in the civilian sector knows full well the "division in healthcare" based on "what insurance you have or don't have" and "how much money you have to make yourself smell good to the ones you seek care from. If you didn't know this to be a reality in America for years and years and years now.........you've been living in a plastic bubble.

Carry on.
At any point, did you hear the windbag-in-chief mention how he would pay for this mess? Check this mornings issue of the New York Times. They didn't hear it either.
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No. 12
from herring_RN
Old Sep 10, 2009, 05:45 PM

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Obama’s Health Speech: California Nurses Say More Is Needed

At a conference for registered nurses in San Francisco, Geri Jenkins watched President Barack Obama’s televised speech with several others from the California Nurses Association. After the speech ended, the knot of nurses was left disappointed.
“You have to give him credit for standing up and trying to tackle the problem,” Jenkins said after it was over. “But it just needed to go a step further.”…

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/09/09/obamas-health-speech-california-nurses-say-more-is-needed/
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No. 13
from herring_RN
Old Sep 10, 2009, 06:10 PM

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REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT TO A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS ON HEALTH CARE

…Now, I have no interest in putting insurance companies out of business. They provide a legitimate service, and employ a lot of our friends and neighbors. I just want to hold them accountable. And the insurance reforms that I've already mentioned would do just that. But an additional step we can take to keep insurance companies honest is by making a not-for-profit public option available in the insurance exchange.

Now, let me be clear. Let me be clear. It would only be an option for those who don't have insurance. No one would be forced to choose it, and it would not impact those of you who already have insurance. In fact, based on Congressional Budget Office estimates, we believe that less than 5 percent of Americans would sign up.

Despite all this, the insurance companies and their allies don't like this idea. They argue that these private companies can't fairly compete with the government.
And they'd be right if taxpayers were subsidizing this public insurance option.

But they won't be. I've insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the premiums it collects.

But by avoiding some of the overhead that gets eaten up at private companies by profits and excessive administrative costs and executive salaries, it could provide a good deal for consumers, and would also keep pressure on private insurers to keep their policies affordable and treat their customers better, the same way public colleges and universities provide additional choice and competition to students without in any way inhibiting a vibrant system of private colleges and universities….

Finally, let me discuss an issue that is a great concern to me, to members of this chamber, and to the public -- and that's how we pay for this plan.

And here's what you need to know. First, I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future. I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period. And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize. Now, part of the reason I faced a trillion-dollar deficit when I walked in the door of the White House is because too many initiatives over the last decade were not paid for -- from the Iraq war to tax breaks for the wealthy. I will not make that same mistake with health care.

Second, we've estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system, a system that is currently full of waste and abuse. Right now, too much of the hard-earned savings and tax dollars we spend on health care don't make us any healthier. That's not my judgment -- it's the judgment of medical professionals across this country. And this is also true when it comes to Medicare and Medicaid. …

The only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud, as well as unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies -- subsidies that do everything to pad their profits but don't improve the care of seniors. And we will also create an independent commission of doctors and medical experts charged with identifying more waste in the years ahead….

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-to-a-Joint-Session-of-Congress-on-Health-Care/

I believe my Daddy died because he signed up for a Care America plan instead of regular Medicare.
(This was against my advice)

The “gatekeeper” would not refer him to a urologist when his PSA rose year after year. His prostate cancer was discovered when what he thought was a shoulder injury turned out to be bone metastasis.

And Care America costs MORE than regular Medicare.
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No. 14
from herring_RN
Old Sep 11, 2009, 09:46 AM

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America's Registered Nurses To Obama:
Public Option Should Be Access To The Congressional Plan, But Best Solution Is To Expand Medicare To Everyone...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/163531.php
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No. 15
from K98
Old Sep 11, 2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by herring_RN View Post
America's Registered Nurses To Obama:
Public Option Should Be Access To The Congressional Plan, But Best Solution Is To Expand Medicare To Everyone...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/163531.php
The headline should read: "Some of America's Registered Nurses..."
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from CRNA2007
Old Sep 12, 2009, 12:59 PM

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Are they even nurses? Remembr the deceit and fraud perpetrated by this Democrat. http://lonestartimes.com/2009/08/13/...son-lee-forum/

I seem to recall Obama touting his stimulus plan would keep unemployment under 8%. Can this man ever tell the truth or even know what his policies are?



Originally Posted by K98 View Post
The headline should read: "Some of America's Registered Nurses..."
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Old Sep 12, 2009, 10:47 PM

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"And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts (read, cuts in jobs & benefits...cause there's no way you're going to provide insurance to 10 million people & cut costs) if the savings we promised don't materialize. Now, part of the reason I faced a trillion-dollar deficit when I walked in the door of the White House is because too many initiatives over the last decade were not paid for -- from the Iraq war to tax breaks for the wealthy. I will not make that same mistake with health care." (what? you just spent billions on a stimulus package that didn't work, asked for billions more, and your own party said "no way in hell")


Who's writing this stuff...it ain't Obama.
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No. 18
Old Sep 12, 2009, 11:35 PM

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Obama:

" In fact, based on Congressional Budget Office estimates, we believe that less than 5 percent of Americans would sign up."


Ok, so less than 5% will sign up? Wait. What?

Then why bother?
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No. 19
Old Sep 12, 2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by K98 View Post
The headline should read: "Some of America's Registered Nurses..."

Thank you!

Frosts my hiney that he says it like ALL nurses are behind him.


steph
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