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Feb 01, 2009, 09:33 AM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o Originally Posted by HM2Viking The margin of "victory" for the Part D legislaton was driven by GOP congressman:
There's another chuckle! The responsibility for this legislation rests with every Representative and Senator who voted for it and with President Bush who signed it. It did not pass with only Republican votes. Plenty of Democrats supported it as well.
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Feb 01, 2009, 12:32 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o Originally Posted by Jolie Why did those lawmakers not demand accountability before handing out hundreds of billions of dollars of our hard-earned money? The current hue and cry over the misappropriation of the bailout money is a bit hypocritical, don't you think, given that it's coming from he same idiots that had the ability to place controls on how the money was spent?
Yes, poor financial practices of the past are coming home to roost. The answer to that is not to hand over more money to those who have already proven an inability to manage it responsibly.
I couldn't agree more and the fact that the US Treasury Dept. was unprepared to monitor and track the bailout funds is now, in hindsight, the subject of an intense investigation by Obama's transition team. The fox was definitely guarding that hen house-Treasury Sec. Paulson was the fmr. head of Goldman Sachs, fgs, and his original proposal was for a no strings attached, "just trust me" --(highway robbery? or inside job?) ransom note: 'give us the money bags and no one will get hurt'. Sure, he believes in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for his buddies, but what about the rest of us?
The reeps put some window dressing on the original proposal due to the outcry from public interest watchdogs, but then their marketing of the "bailout solution" went into hyperdrive. YOU MUST ACT NOW TO PREVENT THE SKY FROM FALLING. Window dressing in a vain attempt to salvage bushco's legacy, but it has no traction, too little, too late: a very expensive mistake. I have hope that the majority of us won't let the taint stain the new administration. While the Congress debated the terms and conditions for the Wall Street bailout, Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson included a $140 billion tax break for banks in the package without oversight. The legality of the move is now questioned as Senator Bernie Sanders, (I), Vermont and Representative Lloyd Doggett, (D), Texas propose overturning the loophole. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090209/paulson_video
Instead of sweeping the damages under the rug, I believe the Obama team is proceeding with due diligence and trying to institute public interest safety controls to limit the damage. With the Justice Dept whistleblowers free to actually serve and protect the public interest, I bet we can look forward to prosecution of corporate criminals and no amnesty!
A more costly mistake continues to be made, not in terms of "things" but in terms of people...everyday that we fail to implement a single-payer universal health care plan. The pain, suffering, and preventable death that occurs because we don't provide access to health care as a social service in this country is appauling. HOW MUCH LONGER will we tolerate such inequality and shameful injustice. Illness impacts our ability to get an education and work and contribute to society.
Again, there is a solution: Economic stimulus and health care for all is not only possible, it's an imperative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dq4UyCvmoo Medicare for All (Single Payer) Reform Would Be Major Stimulus for Economy with 2.6 Million New Jobs, $317 Billion in Business Revenue, $100 Billion in Wages. The number of jobs created by a single payer system, expanding and upgrading Medicare to cover everyone, parallels almost exactly the total job loss in 2008, according to the findings of a groundbreaking study.
The results of this phenomenal new study were presented by the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee during a briefing of Congression staff and legislators held in Washington DC on January 28th. http://www.calnurses.org/media-cente...afety-net.html | | No. 43 |
Feb 01, 2009, 01:48 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o Originally Posted by RN4MERCY I couldn't agree more and the fact that the US Treasury Dept. was unprepared to monitor and track the bailout funds is now, in hindsight, the subject of an intense investigation by Obama's transition team....
Instead of sweeping the damages under the rug, I believe the Obama team is proceeding with due diligence and trying to institute public interest safety controls to limit the damage.
And the actions of the Obama team to protect the financial interests of the citizen of the U.S. include the appointment of a Treasury Secretary (who will take over doling out the bailout money) who couldn't get his own tax return straight. But then, neither could Tom Daschle, nominee for Sec. of HHS. Are you seeing a pattern here? Do you wonder why I fail to trust these people? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...topnewsDaschle
Confirmation Hinges on Ties in Senate
As he ducked into the Capitol late Monday evening, Thomas A. Daschle ran into one of his closest friends, Sen. Tom Harkin (D), the populist from Iowa who had just voted against Timothy F. Geithner's confirmation as Treasury secretary because he could not forgive his failure to pay taxes he owed.
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Daschle Delayed Revealing Tax Glitch
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Daschle Confirmation Hinges on Ties in Senate
Daschle and Harkin embraced and then huddled together for several minutes as Harkin asked about the health of the former Senate leader's ailing brother.
Now, as Daschle tries to win confirmation as health and human services secretary, he must tap such personal relationships, which he cultivated over 18 years representing South Dakota in the Senate, even as Harkin and his colleagues face the same question on Daschle that confronted them with Geithner: Should tax problems derail the nomination?...
David Axelrod, President Obama's senior adviser, led a conference call yesterday to coordinate the message of Democrats appearing on today's news talk shows -- a message that focused in part on defending Daschle. According to participants, the senators on the call agreed on a central theme: "Go fight for him."...
Daschle has become a major financial backer of Democratic campaigns. Last year he wrote more than $40,000 worth of personal checks to benefit Senate candidates. He and his wife, Linda Hall Daschle, donated over the past two years to at least 14 senators who will be tasked with voting on his confirmation....
As Daschle was being interviewed by the staff, 34 senators opposed Geithner's nomination, including Harkin and three other Democrats -- the largest number of votes against any of Obama's nominees thus far.
Like most of those voting no, Harkin issued a statement that said he could not look past Geithner's "serious errors of judgment in failing to pay his taxes."
So we're supposed to believe that these nominations are being made and supported on any rounds other than partisanship and payback? Puhleese!
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Feb 01, 2009, 02:53 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o
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Originally Posted by Jolie And the actions of the Obama team to protect the financial interests of the citizen of the U.S. include the appointment of a Treasury Secretary (who will take over doling out the bailout money) who couldn't get his own tax return straight. But then, neither could Tom Daschle, nominee for Sec. of HHS. Are you seeing a pattern here? Do you wonder why I fail to trust these people? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.  Well, what I'm seeing is that they've owned up and paid up. I can respect that. The system does work if we're vigilant and empower rather than marginalize, silence, and fire whistleblowers. My eyes are wide open. We repudiated McSame and "Bushness as usual" policies at the ballot box. I think Obama's election will make it a lot harder for corporate cronyism to continue to fool us twice. I think we're witnessing the rebirth of politics that matter and public reinvestment in the political process.
Now on to winning passage of HR 676, expanding and improving MediCare to cover all of us AND using single-payer health care reform as an economic stimulus to generate jobs and drive our economy out of the slump. Yes, we can! http://conyers.house.gov/index.cfm?F...2-a018b5600a0c Luke Mitchell of Harper’s Magazine Mentions H.R. 676 in February Issue
This month, Rep. Conyers’ universal healthcare bill, H.R. 676, was mentioned in the Harper’s Magazine. H.R. 676 is a bill that would cover all Americans with guaranteed, high quality healthcare. For almost a year now, Rep. Conyers has been meeting with doctors from many specialties, public health experts, labor advocates, consumer advocates, and universal healthcare organizers, to discuss methods of increasing support for single-payer in the upcoming discussion on healthcare reform.
These meetings are designed to let members of Congress know that single-payer organizers are unified behind H.R. 676and would like for the bill to be part of the upcoming discussion on healthcare reform. The meetings have been open to the public; all members of Congress and their staffs have been invited.
At one meeting, Luke Mitchell of Harper’s Magazine was in attendance. In an article in this month’s issue, Mitchell describes what he saw. Mitchell mentions the open nature of the meetings and the skillful presentation of the single-payer advocates. The meeting Mitchell attended focused on the elimination of racial and economic disparities in health outcomes that exist under the current system. Such an elimination reduces the financial burden on consumers that current system exacerbates.
The following can be attributed to Rep. Conyers:
“It is very pleasing to see that single-payer healthcare was mentioned favorably in such a widely circulated publication. For years, many people have worked extremely hard to show the merits of this type of system. Now that we know that the discussion on healthcare reform is taking place in the very near future, this article furthers the case for single-payer will be taken seriously as a comprehensive method for financing healthcare. Because of its inherent cost-containing mechanisms, it is time others seriously consider bringing single-payer into the discussion on reform.” | | No. 46 |
Feb 01, 2009, 04:58 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o
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 Well, what I'm seeing is that they've owned up and paid up. I can respect that.
They didn't own up and pay up because they had sudden attacks of conscience. They owned up and paid up because they were under public pressure and scrutiny to do so in order to get plum jobs.
I appreciate that you respect their actions.
I don't, because I don't believe there is any sincerity or remorse behind them. Hence, I don't trust these people in public positions.
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Feb 01, 2009, 07:56 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o
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Originally Posted by RN4MERCY
They didn't own up and pay up because they had sudden attacks of conscience. They owned up and paid up because they were under public pressure and scrutiny to do so in order to get plum jobs.
I appreciate that you respect their actions.
I don't, because I don't believe there is any sincerity or remorse behind them. Hence, I don't trust these people in public positions.
How many career politicians do you think were offered the "plum" jobs as you call them, and didn't take the job because they had too much dirt to hide? There were a lot of prominent names bandied about and you have to wonder, I agree, not that I'm making blanket accusations. I believe all the likely candidates understood that there were researchers and investigators who would go over their records with a fine tooth comb. The ones who chose to serve have made good on their debts. I believe they have apologized, and most people want to live up to the expectations set for them. So, let's give them a chance to go on and do the right thing. They're under even more watchful eyes now, yours and mine.
Back to the subject at hand: Single-payer universal health care will create jobs, save money, and stimulate economic growth. As we've seen the "markets" aren't a good way to distribute health care. In an egalitarian society, equal opportunity is a protected right. Access to health care is not distributed equitably. No decent and compassionate society should fail to provide health care to its members when it has the financial resources to do so. It's incumbent upon us to assure the right to health care, education, clean water, and other public responsibilities in a democracy.
Holding bake sales and raffles on neighborhood sidewalks, in school cafeterias or local churches to pay for health care won't solve the health care crisis; and it won't do anything to put Americans back to work. We can do better, and there's a new research study that points the way. http://www.calnurses.org/research/pd...study_2009.pdf
We can't let cynicism or a few shady  politicians make us believe we're powerless or stand in the way of true single-payer reform.
| | No. 49 |
Feb 01, 2009, 10:42 PM
Re: A universal single-payer, not-for-profit healthcare system could help lift tens o Originally Posted by Jolie It's not corporate cronyism that has fooled us twice. It is our elected officials who have failed to represent the interests of the American people and Obama seems to be furthering this travesty with his poor choices in appointments.
I'm definitely a liberal, but I find that I can't argue the fact that the vast majority of the people in our government do not represent the interests of the people.
What can we do, though? It doesn't matter who we have elected, it never makes a difference! I know a lot of conservatives idolize Reagan and his ilk, but let's be honest. The 'coming home to roost' you mention condemns Reagan every bit as much as the most liberal politician. His administration was the very definition of 'borrow now, spend now, pay later and leave grandkids with the bill' that both Bush 1 and 2 have followed.
Politics has left me very disillusioned in general.
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