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No. 50
Old Dec 14, 2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by just_cause View Post
Actually the senate voted the Iraq war resolution and 29 democrats voted for it and 21 against. I actually believe John Edwards and Hillary Clinton were both present and voted 'yea' to pass it as a senate. Its ok it's a trendy and mighty popular viewpoint. Why would the lack of the Iraq war support the funding of health - it wouldn't. I mean we recently promised 16 month pullout, right? As you will see that will not happen, but it worked for the campaign.

Simple stop paying for the illegal war and health care would be affordable for all.

Agree'd. I think it is sad but feel letting them go bankrupt and start from scratch as a necessary development. Of course the government might like to 'own' them a bit - the healthcare doesn't need the benefit as the gov already owns/controls a good portion of this industry.


Actually a complete total restructuring of the auto industry is totally in order see as they have completely been unable to this themselves at all.

I do not even understand what this could mean - it's just trying to infer something negative on the gov of AK - for unk reason. Do you really think that moms who drive SUVs are preventing children from getting health care - really?
I didnt refer to Caribou Barbie in anyway. But now that you bring it up. She makes her own negative inferances for herself. She does not need any help from me.
And if Soccer moms drove more fuel efficient cars rather than those traditional big old SUVs they drive. Then we could reduce our dependence on foriegn oil and maybe then that war would be over. The war is only about one thing, One thing only. OIL and more OIL
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No. 51
Old Dec 14, 2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by just_cause View Post
RN4MERCY, thank you for the personalized posting,

However, my inquiry on what this statement meant by 46 meant,
"What is more important SUVs for soccer moms or health care for the children."
was not answered.
I appreciate your best guesses but it was not your posting.

v/r
Well excuse me for taking a few days off to work and not responding sooner. Really now which is more important, SUVs for soccer moms or health care for the children and under privileged. By continuing to buy and drive these SUVs we are continuing our reliance on OIL, Oil at any cost. This includes American soldiers lives, Continuing outflow of catastrophically large amounts of our money to countries that hate us. And takes away from the amounts of money, that would far more caover the comparative pittance it would take to fund health care. Seems simple to me.
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No. 52
from Whisper1
Old Dec 18, 2008, 08:34 AM

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I honestly do not know any nurse that doesn't give the best care they are capable of giving. Our healthcare system has alot to be desired. There are alot worse. In a perfect world no mistakes would happen, however , we do not live in a perfect world do we?
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No. 53
from herring_RN
Old Dec 18, 2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Whisper1 View Post
I honestly do not know any nurse that doesn't give the best care they are capable of giving. Our healthcare system has alot to be desired. There are alot worse. In a perfect world no mistakes would happen, however , we do not live in a perfect world do we?
All too often we are under staffed. We can only be in ine place at at time.

Some of us think our advocacy extends to improving conditions that are not in the interest or our patients.
Safe staffing helps activist nurses and our wonderful colleagues who can then truly provide the care we all want to give.
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No. 54
from Whisper1
Old Dec 18, 2008, 11:39 AM

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I would like to see real reform in our healthcare system by the poeple who give the care. If Washington would listen to the Nurses,RT's,PT's,OT's,PA's,Nurse Prac's, MD's,DO's and then formulate a plan based on the PATIENT we would have a good starting point.
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No. 55
from Katie82
Old Dec 28, 2008, 07:58 AM

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I just read your list again. I agree with you 100% that these are problems that need to be addressed. But one thing I just noticed is that 8 of 10 items on the list are issues that could be directly impacted by the patient. Not enough responsibility for healthcare woes in this country is being attributed to the patient. I have worked directly with recipients of both private and public sector healthcare for over 20 years and there is little difference in attitude among the healthcare consumer populations. Most see healthcare as a one-way relationship - make me feel better, but don't expect anything from me. Until this changes, there will be little improvement in the state of American healthcare delivery, no matter how much money we throw at it.
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No. 56
from Katie82
Old Dec 28, 2008, 08:03 AM

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[quote=Iam46yearsold;3312012] Really now which is more important, SUVs for soccer moms or health care for the children and under privileged. quote]

I get really tired of people commenting on children not having adequate healthcare. Every state has a CHIP program to cover children whose parents cannot afford healthcare premiums. The income elegibility requirements are very liberal.If this leaves uninsured children, it is because parents who can afford insurance choose not to pay the premiums - perhaps to pay for the SUVs. Whose fault is that?
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No. 57
from patrick1rn
Old Dec 28, 2008, 08:06 AM

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Just another reason to let the federal govt feed us, house us, and take care of all our needs with forced redistrubution of wealth right ?
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No. 58
from herring_RN
Old Dec 28, 2008, 10:38 AM

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It is not the childrens fault.
214,000 Ohio kids uninsured
Advocates call for federal action

...The advocacy group said the 214,000 uninsured Ohio children between 2005 and 2007 are the 11th most of any state, with 7.4 percent of children uninsured.

In Kentucky, 8.4 percent of children are without health insurance, while the 89,000 total ranked No. 29.
The study came before the economic slowdown hit this summer.
Families USA called on Congress and the new administration to reauthorize and expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program. President Bush vetoed an expansion last year....

...Texas has the most uninsured children, at 1.4 million, and the highest percentage of children uninsured, at 20.5 percent. ...

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081129/NEWS01/811290353
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No. 59
Old Dec 28, 2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie82 View Post

I get really tired of people commenting on children not having adequate healthcare. Every state has a CHIP program to cover children whose parents cannot afford healthcare premiums. The income elegibility requirements are very liberal.If this leaves uninsured children, it is because parents who can afford insurance choose not to pay the premiums - perhaps to pay for the SUVs. Whose fault is that?
So let me guess, you believe that a father should be able to stop child support payments, because, hey...who's fault is that? Please, your argument is as ridiculous as it is pathetic.
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