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No. 90
from GCTMT
Old May 13, 2009, 02:01 PM

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But those with the stamina to endure the many exhausting steps of internal review sometimes win. Even if you lose, completing the formal written internal appeal makes you eligible for an independent external review in 43 states and the District of Columbia. State reviews overturn about half of insurers' decisions, and in most states that's final. Nancy Nielsen, president of the America Medical Association and a former chief medical officer of a nonprofit insurance plan, says, "If health insurers are making coverage decisions that are fair and compassionate, very few will be overturned by the state's external appeal process." The numbers speak for themselves.
http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...ying-care.html

Katie Hebert, age 4, is a very sick little girl. She gets severe seizure-like attacks that can last 11 hours from an undiagnosed neuro-developmental disorder. She is deaf in one ear, has a feeding disorder and requires daily medication for asthma. In her short life, she has been rushed to the emergency room six times and hospitalized twice. Her health was put at even greater risk when she lost her health coverage -- which meant no more regular doctor's visits, weekly therapy or attention from specialists.
To deal with this crisis, Katie's father tried to buy private insurance, but he couldn't afford the roughly $1,000 a month, about 30 percent of his salary, to pay for the insurance plan offered by his employer. And even if he could have afforded the insurance, it would not have covered all of Katie's health needs. On top of that, other private insurers would not accept Katie in their programs because of her pre-existing conditions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marian..._b_201473.html

"Pacificare rejected me because I'm an expectant father. Blue Shield rejected me because I got a spider bite. And then this one rejected me because of asthma," Svonkin said.

Last year one nationwide survey, the Commonwealth Fund, found that 89 percent, or 52 million, of those looking for individual health insurance didn't get it because it was too expensive or they were turned down. "Insurers are getting double the profit that they make in the group market. Why is it so lucrative? Because they exclude anybody and everybody who has even a remote sense of risk associated with their health care," says Dr. Bryan Liang, who has studied the insurance industry for more than a decade.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2843007.shtml
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No. 91
from blue note
Old Jun 03, 2009, 06:16 PM

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Now, Baucus "regrets killing single-payer" in reform discussions.

Health-care point man Baucus (D-Mont.), chair of the Senate Finance Committee, took a statewide beating last week for dismissing the possibility of a single-payer system early in the debate -- leading to the meeting with health care professionals and Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who is the sponsor of the Senate's only single-payer bill.

"I don't like paraphrasing other people, I don't like being paraphrased, but I think it's fair to say that what he said is that when he said something to the effect that single-payer is off the table, I think he regrets having said that," Sanders said following a morning closed-door meeting with Baucus. "I think in retrospect he thinks there probably should have been hearings, it should have been part of the process, and then it would have been rejected."
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No. 92
from herring_RN
Old Jun 04, 2009, 01:43 PM

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Today’s meeting of the nation’s leading single payer activists with Sen. Max Baucus was historic, and a recognition of the power of the tens of thousands of nurses, doctors, and grassroots activists across the country who have been turning up the heat on the policy makers in Washington.
Make no mistake – your voices are being heard. And, the protests and pressure will continue.
As Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, told Baucus, "there is a groundswell" across the country that will continue to press for single payer reform, and Baucus and other policy makers in Washington "are going to get to know us very well." In a later press conference, DeMoro blasted the conventional wisdom that single payer is not politically viable. "Is it politically viable to let people die and suffer from a lack of political will?" Noting the fight for women’s suffrage and the civil rights movement, she emphasized, "we’re going to have to turn up the heat. Women did not get the right to vote by voting on it."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/3/171427/8822?new=true
Other articles and opinions:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23293.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/03/MNF417VOAQ.DTL&type=science

http://www.minnpost.com/ericblack/2009/06/03/9270/baucus_to_single-payer_health_care_advocates_sorry_i_excluded_you_b ut_not_sorry_enough_to_include_you

http://washingtonindependent.com/45580/sanders-the-lone-senate-voice-for-single-payer-health-coverage

http://www.wickedlocal.com/marshfield/news/lifestyle/columnists/x1175998360/MARSHFIELD-FROM-THE-EDITORS-DESK-A-little-bit-of-tortured-logic

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Extraordinary-Baltimore-He-by-Diane-Wittner-090602-451.html
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No. 93
from herring_RN
Old Jun 05, 2009, 01:16 PM

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Single payer advocates in the news

Augusta, Maine: http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/6407921.html

San Diego, California: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jun/05/1n5health23162-htk/?health&zIndex=111325

New Hampshire: “I’m not a radical. I like taxes low and limited government spending, but health care should be a right and not a privilege,” Clairmont said. “We are hearing talk about reform and fears about socialized medicine or single-payer being politically unfeasible -- but our plan is simple and it will save money because it focuses on health care and not making money for the insurance industry. And we are frustrated because it’s not being taken seriously.” Portsmouth physician Thomas Clairmont MD.
Stockton, California: http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090605/A_NEWS/906050319/-1/A_NEWS03

New Jersey: http://hudsonreporter.com/pages/full_story?page_label=home_top_section&id=2647160-Got+health+care-+-Local+residents+propose+single-payer+system-&article-Got%20health%20care-%20-Local%20residents%20propose%20single-payer%20system-%20=&widget=push&instance=jersey_city_story_left_c olumn&open=&

Montana: http://missoulian.com/articles/2009/05/29/news/local/news02.txt
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No. 94
from CRNA2007
Old Jun 05, 2009, 06:02 PM

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Can't have low taxes and a government run health care system. Now if everyone is required to pay the same amount then lets start the debate. But since the majority of the people receiving and abusing the system at little to no cost. These are the typical free loaders who contribute nothing to improve the American way of life but instead constantly eat at the tax paying trough and complain when the trough starts to run dry.




Originally Posted by herring_RN View Post
Single payer advocates in the news

Augusta, Maine: http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/6407921.html

San Diego, California: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jun/05/1n5health23162-htk/?health&zIndex=111325

New Hampshire: “I’m not a radical. I like taxes low and limited government spending, but health care should be a right and not a privilege,” Clairmont said. “We are hearing talk about reform and fears about socialized medicine or single-payer being politically unfeasible -- but our plan is simple and it will save money because it focuses on health care and not making money for the insurance industry. And we are frustrated because it’s not being taken seriously.” Portsmouth physician Thomas Clairmont MD.
Stockton, California: http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090605/A_NEWS/906050319/-1/A_NEWS03

New Jersey: http://hudsonreporter.com/pages/full_story?page_label=home_top_section&id=2647160-Got+health+care-+-Local+residents+propose+single-payer+system-&article-Got%20health%20care-%20-Local%20residents%20propose%20single-payer%20system-%20=&widget=push&instance=jersey_city_story_left_c olumn&open=&

Montana: http://missoulian.com/articles/2009/05/29/news/local/news02.txt
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No. 95
from blue note
Old Jun 05, 2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CRNA2007 View Post
But since the majority of the people receiving and abusing the system at little to no cost. These are the typical free loaders who contribute nothing to improve the American way of life but instead constantly eat at the tax paying trough and complain when the trough starts to run dry.
Source(s) for that claim? Any studies you can cite to support that? Otherwise, it is nothing more than the same old tired conservative canard about how the free loading poor will abuse the system if health care were actually affordable for all. You know, as opposed to the fraud perpetrated by the health insurance companies, sometimes as often as 185 times a day, every day, for 2 years like PacifiCare did in California, or hospital corporations who defrauded the government (i.e. taxpayers) to the tune of $840 million. Oh no, let's not blame those people for abusing and costing the system. Let's blame those nameless poor free loaders!
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No. 96
from CRNA2007
Old Jun 06, 2009, 03:13 AM

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how about these sources

http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...01/0401er.html

http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration...thcare-system/

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43275

http://www.desastres.org/noticias.php?id=11102007-23



Originally Posted by blue note View Post
Source(s) for that claim? Any studies you can cite to support that? Otherwise, it is nothing more than the same old tired conservative canard about how the free loading poor will abuse the system if health care were actually affordable for all. You know, as opposed to the fraud perpetrated by the health insurance companies, sometimes as often as 185 times a day, every day, for 2 years like PacifiCare did in California, or hospital corporations who defrauded the government (i.e. taxpayers) to the tune of $840 million. Oh no, let's not blame those people for abusing and costing the system. Let's blame those nameless poor free loaders!
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No. 97
from blue note
Old Jun 06, 2009, 05:01 AM

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Two of these basically say, blame the illegal immigrants, one of which actually ends with this morsel: "Special thanks to Sean Hannity for airing this important information. We basically transcribed his television segment to share with the rest of the concerned country." How about an unbiased news source not from Faux News, eh?

The other two are about ER abuse happening now, under the current system. You are assuming that if health care reform happens, the abuse will worsen, as if health care reform will not include ways to curb that abuse. I don't know why you'd assume that. It would be one thing if we had specifics of what the reform will look like, and there is critique of that. But we don't know the details yet, so your assumptions that the worst will happen, just smack of conservative fear-mongering.
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No. 98
from CRNA2007
Old Jun 06, 2009, 02:21 PM

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You asked for sources and I give thme to you know as a typical liberal you have to resort to name calling how quaint and predictable. Fortunatley conservatives are more open minded than liberals.

Originally Posted by blue note View Post
Two of these basically say, blame the illegal immigrants, one of which actually ends with this morsel: "Special thanks to Sean Hannity for airing this important information. We basically transcribed his television segment to share with the rest of the concerned country." How about an unbiased news source not from Faux News, eh?

The other two are about ER abuse happening now, under the current system. You are assuming that if health care reform happens, the abuse will worsen, as if health care reform will not include ways to curb that abuse. I don't know why you'd assume that. It would be one thing if we had specifics of what the reform will look like, and there is critique of that. But we don't know the details yet, so your assumptions that the worst will happen, just smack of conservative fear-mongering.
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No. 99
from blue note
Old Jun 06, 2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CRNA2007 View Post
You asked for sources and I give thme to you know as a typical liberal you have to resort to name calling how quaint and predictable.
When you cite Faux News as a source, or offer up articles funded by health insurance lobbyists, they deserved to be exposed for the right wing propaganda they are.

Fortunatley conservatives are more open minded than liberals.
Thanks for the laugh of the day.
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