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Oct 21, 2009 11:12 AM

Medicare for everyone is a public option

by HM2VikingRN Staff

The analysis finds the reconstituted House proposal to be deficit neutral, and require less than $900 billion (reportedly around $870 billion) in new spending, over ten years.

The bill remains nominally more expensive than the Senate Finance Committee proposal, but would cover 96 percent of all Americans, providing greater bang for each federal dollar spent. And, aides note, the bill that comes to the floor of the Senate will be a hybrid of the Finance and more expensive HELP Committee bills, so the price is expected to rise.
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And House health care principals have been working doggedly to keep the price of reform down with the help of the public option--so in a sense, the news of this final push comes as little surprise: Pelosi is, as expected, using the fiscal responsibility of the robust public option to win over enough skeptics in her caucus to pass it. And she is, reportedly, very close to doing that.

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from GCTMT
Old Oct 21, 2009, 08:25 PM

Default Re: Pelosi pushing robust public option....
Here's hoping that she is close. We need a public option.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 09:38 AM

Default People don’t know what a public option is. Medicare is a public option
Say hello to “Medicare Part E” — as in, “Medicare for Everyone.”

House Democrats are looking at re-branding the public health insurance option as Medicare, an established government healthcare program that is better known than the public option.
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“One of his concerns is that people don’t know what a public option is. Medicare is a public option,” Schadl said. He said Oberstar started talking about “Medicare for Everyone” during August town hall meetings.


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/64...e-for-everyone
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:53 PM

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I would love to see "Medicare part E" put into this reform. An expanded program would provide the stimulus needed for Congress to fix some of the payment problems with Medicare and maybe even look at ways to reduce the cost of health care instead of just reducing the reimbursement.
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Old Oct 22, 2009, 01:36 PM

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So, are they considering changing the name of the public option, or incorporating it within Medicare as it currently exists?
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 08:32 AM

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The yellow triangle represents the sort of "Zone of Compromise". I'm pretty sure that a co-ops provision, with immediate implementation, could pass the Senate (or at least not be filibustered by it). Likewise with Olympia Snowe's trigger. A strong-ish opt-in amendment proposed by Maria Cantwell was approved by the Senate Finance Committee along party lines, but did not get Snowe's vote; it might or might not pass the full Senate.

Basically, any square that is overlapped by the triangle seems like a plausible outcome. The most robust public option available is probably a federally-run program that states would have the right to opt out of and which would have to negotiate its rates in the market. The worst-case scenario is probably state level programs with an extremely stingy trigger, as proposed by Snowe. (This is assuming, of course, that health care reform as a whole will pass, which people may be a little bit too sanguine about.)
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/...ld-in-two.html
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 09:32 AM

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed. View this video at YouTube

The push is on for a strong public option...
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Old Nov 05, 2009, 10:37 PM

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Do you really want choice and control over your healthcare?
There is still hope for real change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHVANCSpnO8&feature=sub
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Old Nov 07, 2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by azhiker96 View Post
I would love to see "Medicare part E" put into this reform. An expanded program would provide the stimulus needed for Congress to fix some of the payment problems with Medicare and maybe even look at ways to reduce the cost of health care instead of just reducing the reimbursement.
CMS is trying desperatly to come up with options that will make it more cost effective. I worked with one such pilot program, and am getting ready to work with another. I work for a state funded program that provides care management to Medicaid recipients. Insuring that our patients are receiving evidence-based quality care in a cost effective manner is our goal, and we have been successful in saving the state millions. The feds are now looking at us to do the same for Medicare patients. Making Medicare managed care is a given - one that is meeting a lot of resistence from both providers and recipients. If they could just get a handle on all the fraud and abuse involved in Medicare, the gov would save billions. I look forward to being able to do a little of that.
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 01:18 PM

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Because people can be greedy and unethical there can be fraud and abuse in any insurance system...uh....any system....uh...any business, in any type of government in any country on this planet.
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