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No. 10
from herring_RN
Old Jun 03, 2009, 07:17 PM

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Baucus is listening but not hearing — not yet


...The genuine reform proposals supported by the nation's caregivers, and much of the American people, may not have a place at the table in the debate Baucus is conducting, but at least today, thanks to criticism from across Montana and around the country, they will have a place in Baucus' office.

He has refused to debate or even allow discussion of the idea of single-payer or guaranteed healthcare. Under this model, physicians and hospitals are private, and everyone is covered by a national, non-profit health fund; it's as if Medicare were improved and made universal. In Taiwan, Canada and most of Europe, single-payer healthcare is outperforming the American system at about half the cost.

Instead, Baucus, the No. 3 recipient in Congress of fundraising donations from health insurance corporations, supports proposals to help these insurers sell more policies to patients like me and you and reap more profits out of our healthcare system. In his role as chair of the Senate finance committee, he has opted to limit debate to just these proposals — the ones his insurance donors approve of....
Baucus is listening but not hearing — not yet...

...In Helena, angry voters delivered to Baucus the same message that the caregivers had: "A majority want single-payer healthcare." "The word ‘insurance' does not equal health care," Janelle Kuechle from Polson argues at a Baucus forum last week. "If I have to pay a $900 premium to have health insurance with a $10,000 deductible, that is not health care." When a Baucus staffer dismissed these concerns, only 10 of the 275 people in the audience indicated that they like the insurance products they've been forced to buy, which jibes with national polling that a majority of the American people want real change....

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No. 11
from UKRNinUSA
Old Jun 03, 2009, 11:05 PM

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I just got an email from CNA:

"CNA/NNOC co-president Geri Jenkins, RN, Executive Director Rose Ann DeMoro, Dr. David Himmelstein, PNHP president Dr. Oliver Fein, and Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, went with Senator Sanders today to a meeting with Senator Max Baucus, who is leading the Democratic healthcare reform effort in the Senate. It was the first extended discussion Baucus has had with single-payer advocates. He heard from doctors and nurses on the front lines about the need for a real policy debate on single-payer and the dangers of keeping the insurance companies at the apex of power – and the opposition doing that will create among doctors and nurses. In response to Rose Ann DeMoro's request, Baucus agreed to drop the charges against those arrested at the Finance Committee hearing..................Geri Jenkins, RN, co-president of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee and a practicing registered nurse, reported that Baucus had implied he'd made a mistake in not including single-payer but that it was too late now.
And, finally, Dr. Oliver Fein, president of PNHP and associate dean at Weill Medical College of Cornell University, said that he and his colleagues had asked Baucus for a full hearing on the merits of single payer and asked for the Congressional Budget Office to create a comparison of single payer with whatever plan Congress produces that is not single payer. Senator Sanders said that he would continue to push Baucus to hold a hearing."
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No. 12
from herring_RN
Old Jun 04, 2009, 02:44 PM

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Video Interview on Single Payer Healthcare:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Videos.php/2009/06/04/demoro-there-s-a-conspiracy-of-silence-a
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No. 13
from jetsh
Old Jun 14, 2009, 01:17 PM

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Thanks for posting on this - I was part of the Thomas Jefferson University student group that brought Rep Conyers to our campus to speak, which was a fabulous experience. However, the student group was me and ten med students who, however well-intentioned, were coming from a different place than I was about it. Interdiscplinary efforts are crucial, and I learned a lot from the experience - as did they - but I can't tell you how exciting it is to me to be discussing single-payer and other healthcare reform with others in nursing.
Thanks!
- Jonah [three days away from NCLEX, so probably I should be doing questions instead of trolling these boards!]
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No. 14
from blue note
Old Jun 15, 2009, 04:39 PM

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This is a must-see! From the House HELP single payer hearing, Dennis Kucinich sets Dr. David Gratzer straight. Gratzer is the right-wing Canadian who was Rudy Giuliani's "health policy" advisor, and was responsible for giving misleading statistics to Giuliani on cancer survival rates to bash health care reform (see Politifact.com's analysis of this). Gratzer has also written numerous articles bashing the Canadian system via the use of selective statistics, including one recent one in the Wall Street Journal.

Anyway, he got called out by Dennis Kucinich, and it is an awesome thing to behold.

ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed. View this video at YouTube
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No. 15
from blue note
Old Jun 15, 2009, 04:52 PM

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Also, if you're a single-payer/public option advocate and frustrated with all the efforts to stymie reform, read this rant. It's an opinion piece, but sometimes, we all need a good vent. Or in this case, a good vent to agree with! He does lists the paychecks of health insurance CEOs, like how the one for Aetna made over $24 million in 2008. The one for CIGNA made over $12 million.

The Health Insurance Mafia Deserves a Good Screwing, by Bob Cesca at the Huffington Post.

A government healthcare plan, on the other hand, would be specifically tailored for stories like mine, and it's my only real chance of having health insurance anytime soon.

In addition to putting the "insurance" back into "health insurance," the public plan would force the private insurers to figure out how to compete -- or face bankruptcy. How excellent would that be for a change? The health insurance companies under financial pressure brought on by a competitive entity that we own.

Honestly, I hope they choke on it. I can think of no other American industry that more closely resembles a criminal shakedown of the public than the health insurers.

Even calling it "insurance" is a sick joke. Insurance implies a guarantee, and no matter what we pay, there are never any guarantees. I propose replacing the word "insurance" with the word "maybe?" -- including the question mark -- as in "health maybe?" Maybe they'll pay when we get sick. Maybe they won't randomly hike our monthly premium by 30 percent. Maybe they'll cover our preexisting conditions without gouging us -- that is if they agree to cover us at all. Maybe they won't let our family members die after refusing coverage.

The entire business model of the health insurance industry is based around a basic truth: people have a natural will to live, and in many cases we'll go broke paying someone to prevent death. The cost of healthcare is so expensive -- in some cases conspiratorial by design -- that we need these other companies to step in and help us pay for it. That's the whole scam. Pay or die.

Consequently, the basic animalistic fear of pain and death coerces us to keep paying whatever we have to pay, and allows the health insurance companies total latitude to get away with their criminal enterprise.
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No. 16
from GCTMT
Old Jun 16, 2009, 10:46 PM

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Blue Note, I saw that before with Gratzer getting grilled by Kucinich. It was pretty funny.

And thanks for the rant.
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