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No. 20
from BahoRN
Old Sep 16, 2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ozoneranger View Post
How is reforming healthcare going to un-debilitate her?

I'm all for reform.
Sustainable reform.
I'm yet to see a bill that is sustainable. When one comes down the pike, I'll jump on the bandwagon.

I think that is the only responsible thing I've read from you. I applaud you Ozoneranger!!!!

Now then, back to the comment made regarding socialism... forget calling health care reform socialist.
It's no more socialist than public schools, the police department, fire department, libraries, and any other agency you pay on your property tax bill, oh yes -lets not forget the streets outside our front doors and how terribly socialist they are.

I know, you say none of those agencies are self sufficient, they're full of pot holes, continually under funded...etc, etc. Yes, this is true, however - they work.
Rich or poor, intelligent or challenged, you make the call or enter the door and you are provided equal service. Period.
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No. 21
Old Sep 16, 2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BahoRN View Post
I think that is the only responsible thing I've read from you. I applaud you Ozoneranger!!!!

Now then, back to the comment made regarding socialism... forget calling health care reform socialist.
It's no more socialist than public schools, the police department, fire department, libraries, and any other agency you pay on your property tax bill, oh yes -lets not forget the streets outside our front doors and how terribly socialist they are.

I know, you say none of those agencies are self sufficient, they're full of pot holes, continually under funded...etc, etc. Yes, this is true, however - they work.
Rich or poor, intelligent or challenged, you make the call or enter the door and you are provided equal service. Period.
72% of the fire departments in this country are volunteer. Most of our public schools are the worst in the world. More and more people are home schooling or paying twice for school for their kids. We have one of the highest crime rates in the world. Police department. Yeah right.

Do you believe that 2 tylenol are good for a headache but 10 would be better. What about food. Why is Kraft allowed to make millions but an insurance company can't.

Did you know that it's the government that's limiting our access to insurance? Check out some sites on the internet and put in several states. In some states you have a choice of 3 or 4 comapanies in others you have a choice or 20-30.

It's not having insurance that matters. It's the cost of healthcare. Americans want the best. They aren't satisfied with middle of the ground. They want houses they can't afford, cars and trucks they don't need. Why does a guy who lives in a condo need a truck. What's he gonna haul in it? What service costs you less today than it did 10 years ago. I had a plumber at my house. $95/hr. Should a plumber make that much money. It was a family business so he kept all the money. Probably depricating his truck big time. But that's ok. Because many middle class people can be plumbers. Are you ready to take a cut in pay to pay for others... plus pay higher taxes? People need clothes. Should we subsidize that too? When is enough enough?

A liberal will give you the shirt of someone else's back.
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No. 22
Old Sep 16, 2009, 11:35 PM

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sources?
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No. 23
Old Sep 17, 2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HM2Viking View Post
sources?
http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/statistics/d...nts/index.shtm

"87% of fire departments are volunteer or mostly volunteer and protect 38% of the population"


http://nces.ed.gov/ccd/pubs/npefs03/findings.asp

The median of the state per pupil expenditures was $7,574, indicating that one-half of all states educated students at a cost of less than $7,574 per student (derived from table 5). Three states-New Jersey ($12,568), New York ($11,961), and Connecticut ($11,057)-expended more than $11,000 per pupil. The District of Columbia, which comprises a single urban district, spent $11,847 per pupil. Only one state, Utah, had expenditures of less than $5,000 for each pupil in membership ($4,838).


http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/200908100.asp

Each year, the homeschool movement graduates at least 100,000 students. Due to the fact that both the United States government and homeschool advocates agree that homeschooling has been growing at around 7% per annum for the past decade, it is not surprising that homeschooling is gaining increased attention. Consequently, many people have been asking questions about homeschooling, usually with a focus on either the academic or social abilities of homeschool graduates.

The last piece of major research looking at homeschool academic achievement was completed in 1998 by Dr. Lawrence Rudner. Rudner, a professor at the ERIC Clearinghouse, which is part of the University of Maryland, surveyed over 20,000 homeschooled students. His study, titled Home Schooling Works, discovered that homeschoolers (on average) scored about 30 percentile points higher than the national average on standardized achievement tests.




[url]http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_sci_lit-education-scientific-literacy[/url]

# 1 Korea, South: 552
# 2 Japan: 550
# 3 Finland: 538
# 4 United Kingdom: 532
# 5 Canada: 529
= 6 Australia: 528
= 6 New Zealand: 528
# 8 Austria: 519
# 9 Ireland: 513
# 10 Sweden: 512
# 11 Czech Republic: 511
= 12 France: 500
= 12 Norway: 500
# 14 United States: 499




http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=129070&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1316651


"The investments we've made over the past three years are driving solid business momentum in a challenging economic environment," said Irene Rosenfeld, Chairman and CEO. "We're on track to deliver strong top- and bottom-line results, restore our profit margins to industry averages and consistently deliver against our long-term earnings growth target of 7 to 9 percent."

* Net revenues declined 5.9 percent to $10.2 billion, including the unfavorable impact of 8.1 percentage points from currency and 0.7 percentage points from divestitures.


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20080326-1409-kraft-executivecompensation.html



Kraft Foods CEO Rosenfeld earns $11.6 million in 2007 compensation
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No. 24
from BahoRN
Old Sep 17, 2009, 10:36 AM

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I continue to believe that it is this "every man for himself" attitude that is driving the US economy, dollar, education, health and well being into an early grave.

Thank "God" for the volunteer firefighters and their socialist beliefs of wanting to help their fellow neighbors.

I just had to cut a $50,000.00 check to the US Treasury for my quarterly business taxes, and am looking forward to paying almost $14,000.00 in upcoming property taxes. I will have paid for the education of how many?

And lastly, how can anyone equate higher crime equals lousy police department? Once again you brush off your own accountabilities for your actions and insist upon government/agency policing of you and your neighbors.

By your logic, consider the following:

WalMart moves in and puts out of business the local grocery store, camera store, toy store, automotive parts store...etc, etc. You now have how many out of work, how many under new stressors, how much in community taxes lost (cause monster companies like WM get gigantic tax breaks)...and when the crime rate goes up, you think it's the police department at fault?

Amazing.
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No. 25
from herring_RN
Old Sep 17, 2009, 01:30 PM
Updated Sep 17, 2009 at 01:39 PM by herring_RN

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Volunteer fire departments are not for profit.

I used to volunteer at a free clinic, now donate money.

Volunteered for Remote Area Medical - http://www.ramusa.org/expeditions/2009/ramla2009.htm

This is not the free market providing needed healthcare for people.
It is licensed professionals and others doing what little we can. And it is not enough.
When we sent people to the hospital their care was probably paid for by tax money.

Perhaps some small community can provide medical and nursing care, hospital and all staffed 24/7 with volunteers but as it is with firefighters and police that cannot be the plan for our entire country.

Back to the thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKXEi...layer_embedded
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