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Oct 29, 2009, 10:35 AM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die I live in a rural area and I am also a nurse here and I cannot think of one person who could not travel to another area if they wanted to.
It is very different where I live. I am in a rural part of Michigan, and I work in public health. There is a bus that will take people to local businesses, but it costs money. We have many people call the health department who cannot get a ride to out of town specialists, or cannot even get in to see their own doctor in town because they have no car, no money.
We have many people in our county who refuse care because they are terrified of getting a bill that would ruin them financially. And some have pretty urgent issues that need immediate care. Many of them have worked hard most of their life, but the economy here is so horrible, and there are not many jobs. I have no doubt that people die from lack of health insurance.
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Nov 07, 2009, 10:52 AM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die
[ She told me that if she had found the lump before she was covered, she would have waited to be treated. So how much longer could her cancer have progressed? Maybe to the point that her chances of survival were significantly decreased?
I understand the point you are making, and I do know the problems confronting the uninsured. I work with that every day. In the case of this patient, there would have been another option - the BCCP program, which is federally funded and administered at a state level. It pays for diagnosis and treatment (for the uninsured, or underinsured) for women who have breast or cervical cancer. Finding resources is often a lot of work, I do it every day, but there are a lot of resources out there if you look. Then there is always Medicaid that will, in many cases, pay for catastrophic costs on an income-elegible basis.
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Nov 07, 2009, 11:10 AM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die
[quote=Spidey's mom;3922951]Moogie - I'm glad your friend is getting good care.
I don't think wigs should be covered though.
I agree, wigs are cosmetic. I know patients who feel better about themselves heal better, but wigs are still cosmetic. There are many agencies that offer re-cycled wigs to cancer patients who cannot afford them.
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Nov 07, 2009, 06:23 PM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die
How many of them smoke, drink beer, and buy lottery tickets? How many have a dish network dish on top of their house especially the High Definition one. Originally Posted by LaneyB I live in a rural area and I am also a nurse here and I cannot think of one person who could not travel to another area if they wanted to.
It is very different where I live. I am in a rural part of Michigan, and I work in public health. There is a bus that will take people to local businesses, but it costs money. We have many people call the health department who cannot get a ride to out of town specialists, or cannot even get in to see their own doctor in town because they have no car, no money.
We have many people in our county who refuse care because they are terrified of getting a bill that would ruin them financially. And some have pretty urgent issues that need immediate care. Many of them have worked hard most of their life, but the economy here is so horrible, and there are not many jobs. I have no doubt that people die from lack of health insurance. | | No. 15 |
Nov 07, 2009, 10:56 PM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die Originally Posted by Katie82 I understand the point you are making, and I do know the problems confronting the uninsured. I work with that every day. In the case of this patient, there would have been another option - the BCCP program, which is federally funded and administered at a state level. It pays for diagnosis and treatment (for the uninsured, or underinsured) for women who have breast or cervical cancer. Finding resources is often a lot of work, I do it every day, but there are a lot of resources out there if you look. Then there is always Medicaid that will, in many cases, pay for catastrophic costs on an income-elegible basis.
My friend and her husband make too much money to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to buy private insurance. I am glad she was able to get coverage through her husband's job. Good to know about the additional resources; if she has any problems, I will LHK. Also good to know about the recycled wigs.
Do you think that people who are eligible for assistance often don't get it because they distrust the system in some way?
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Nov 08, 2009, 09:17 AM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die Originally Posted by Moogie My friend and her husband make too much money to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to buy private insurance. I am glad she was able to get coverage through her husband's job. Good to know about the additional resources; if she has any problems, I will LHK. Also good to know about the recycled wigs.
Do you think that people who are eligible for assistance often don't get it because they distrust the system in some way?
While I see your issue here of not having insurance, I wonder what having insurance would change. If the services aren't there what good does having a way to pay for them. If I'm in the forest having lots of money is not gonna buy me food.
This care won't be universal just because of these same issues. If you live in a very rural area you are still gonna need to travel for care.
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Nov 08, 2009, 09:58 AM
Re: 'I'm Not Sure It's A Fact' That Lack Of Health Insurance Causes People To Die Originally Posted by Spidey's mom I live in a rural area and I am also a nurse here and I cannot think of one person who could not travel to another area if they wanted to.
I live in a rural area too. My friend lives 1 hours and 10 mins to the nearest small town (level 3, 25 bed Critical Access) and that does not include the 20 mins she has to drive on a dirt road to get the main highway. It is another 25 mins to get to our biggest city which has a level 2 hospital; Not all rural areas are the same. 4 and a half hours to the nearest level 3
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