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No. 40
Old Aug 29, 2009, 08:20 PM

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The true measure of the civility of any society is how well it treats the most helpless of its citizenry.
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No. 41
from annmariern
Old Aug 29, 2009, 08:35 PM
Updated Aug 29, 2009 at 08:41 PM by annmariern

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Originally Posted by holly1028 View Post
I think everybody should have access to quality health care. The one thing I think people should have to cover themselves would be diseases that they brought upon themselves (drug/alcohol abuse).
Well in that case why not include work related and smoking related cancers? Gallbladder disease, joint damage, heart disease etc in the obese? Head injuries, fractures in anyone driving badly or taking part in risky sports? That list could go on and on. Human beings do stupid things. All of us do in one way or another. Does it mean they don't deserve help? I'm not saying its not frustrating as hell to take care of them, expensive etc. But what does it mean to say that you exclude some disease but not another? What do you do with these people leave them at the hospital door?
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No. 42
from canoehead
Old Aug 29, 2009, 09:36 PM

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If health care is a right then why aren't food and shelter rights?
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No. 43
from NRSKarenRN
Old Aug 29, 2009, 09:52 PM

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No. 44
Old Aug 30, 2009, 12:39 AM

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Who's rights are right?

The smoker wants to light up, it's his right. I don't want to smell it, that's my right.

So, who's right?

I work hard for my money, budget expenses, save for retirement. I think I should have the right to decide where my money goes. I already fund social programs that assist individuals who are unable to support themselves. And I really don't have a problem with a sustainable healthcare system for those who fall through the cracks.

What I do have a problem with is people who do not budget for their needs. The healthcare poster children paraded in the media, sitting in their living rooms with their big screen TV's...Jr. texting on his Blackberry, wearing the latest in Tommy Hilfiger, Cadillac in the driveway. They had no problem charging all these material things on their credit cards, wanting to show the world just how well off they are.....but health insurance....not even on their radar.

People think they are entitled to anything they want, but won't pony up for what they need.
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No. 45
from Pat_Pat RN
Old Aug 30, 2009, 02:21 AM

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^^^ Exactly right.
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No. 46
from BahoRN
Old Aug 30, 2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ozoneranger View Post
Who's rights are right?

The smoker wants to light up, it's his right. I don't want to smell it, that's my right.

So, who's right?

I work hard for my money, budget expenses, save for retirement. I think I should have the right to decide where my money goes. I already fund social programs that assist individuals who are unable to support themselves. And I really don't have a problem with a sustainable healthcare system for those who fall through the cracks.

What I do have a problem with is people who do not budget for their needs. The healthcare poster children paraded in the media, sitting in their living rooms with their big screen TV's...Jr. texting on his Blackberry, wearing the latest in Tommy Hilfiger, Cadillac in the driveway. They had no problem charging all these material things on their credit cards, wanting to show the world just how well off they are.....but health insurance....not even on their radar.

People think they are entitled to anything they want, but won't pony up for what they need.

You just proved advertising does work. Don't EVER believe what you see on television never mind a television ad for crying out loud.
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No. 47
Old Sep 01, 2009, 07:32 AM

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I'm referring to news stories designed to show the plight of the uninsured.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for these families. When you're trying to look poor, at least have the good sense to put the ipod, iphone, big screen TV out of the camera shot.
My doctor takes master card.....if you can charge that iphone, then you can charge a doctors visit.......
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No. 48
from BahoRN
Old Sep 01, 2009, 09:14 PM

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I find the news to be highly over rated television ads. If true life and fact is what one is after -go speak with those living in it and get first account, subjective statements. That said, the news is not evidence based, it more propaganda than anything else -they report what sells (or gets people to tune in at dinner time).

Please don't continue thinking an iPod=wealth. It could have been a gift, a donation, a well placed advertisement, it may have even been placed by the news crew as a prop in order to stir controversy, who knows.

I don't think any one is expecting others to feel sorry for the under/less privileged, I think all we're asking for is humanity instead. We need to realize some people are lazy, some are stupid, some have had unfortunate accidents, and some are just plain unfortunate...What ever the case, don't you think that if one child gets cancer therapy, shouldn't all???
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No. 49
from CRNA2007
Old Sep 02, 2009, 09:12 AM

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Who's not getting cancer therapy?
And yes people on here all the time like to demonize conservatives as heartless and cruel for not wanting to pay for someone elses health care. The real compassion starts with the check book not some meaningless empathetic statements about how everyone derserves this or that or that everyone has a right to health care. I want to start seeing the libs pony up the cash to cover all these people. Let's start taking out an extra $1000/ month out of everyones paycheck on here that thinks health care is a right and then let's see exactly how much compassion they have for the "downtrodden".



Originally Posted by BahoRN View Post
I find the news to be highly over rated television ads. If true life and fact is what one is after -go speak with those living in it and get first account, subjective statements. That said, the news is not evidence based, it more propaganda than anything else -they report what sells (or gets people to tune in at dinner time).

Please don't continue thinking an iPod=wealth. It could have been a gift, a donation, a well placed advertisement, it may have even been placed by the news crew as a prop in order to stir controversy, who knows.

I don't think any one is expecting others to feel sorry for the under/less privileged, I think all we're asking for is humanity instead. We need to realize some people are lazy, some are stupid, some have had unfortunate accidents, and some are just plain unfortunate...What ever the case, don't you think that if one child gets cancer therapy, shouldn't all???
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