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No. 30
Old Aug 29, 2009, 05:29 PM

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It should be !!!!!
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No. 31
from BahoRN
Old Aug 29, 2009, 05:53 PM

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Very clear & most succinct, check out this clip...The best argument for health care reform I've heard.
Share it with others, please!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitvFZTOrp4
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No. 32
Old Aug 29, 2009, 06:27 PM

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Of course it is. Everyone has the right to health care, regardless of what politians may think.
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 06:37 PM

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Universal access to quality health care is the only humane and civilized approach we should expect from a wealthy, industrialized nation.
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No. 34
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 06:51 PM

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I think everybody should have access to quality health care. The one thing I think people should have to cover themselves would be diseases that they brought upon themselves (drug/alcohol abuse).
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No. 35
Old Aug 29, 2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by holly1028 View Post
I think everybody should have access to quality health care. The one thing I think people should have to cover themselves would be diseases that they brought upon themselves (drug/alcohol abuse).
Your statement ignores the reality that people tend to be alcoholics or drug addicts due to an underlying mental illness. That's hardly "bringing it upon themselves".
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No. 36
Old Aug 29, 2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by holly1028 View Post
I think everybody should have access to quality health care. The one thing I think people should have to cover themselves would be diseases that they brought upon themselves (drug/alcohol abuse).
...drug abuse, etoh abuse, CAD, diabetes, COPD, HTN, CHF, CKD, obesity, hyperliplidemia, many cancers...and all the complications for all of these...

Everybody but those with rare congenital diseases or genetic diseases would be covering themselves. And god forbid one of them needs a statin or ace inhibitor one day.
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No. 37
Old Aug 29, 2009, 07:30 PM

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YES INDEED
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No. 38
from HonestRN
Old Aug 29, 2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by holly1028 View Post
I think everybody should have access to quality health care. The one thing I think people should have to cover themselves would be diseases that they brought upon themselves (drug/alcohol abuse).
Unfortunately the majority of health care costs go to self induced diseases such as adult onset diabetes, hypertension, joint issues etc resulting from obesity.

Originally Posted by Los Angles Times
Growing obesity swells healthcare costs July 27, 2009

In the eight years leading up to 2006, the proportion of Americans weighing in as obese shot up 37%, fueling a $40-billion-a-year rise in healthcare costs, according to a new analysis of the nation's weight conducted under the direction of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
That added bill for the care of obese Americans -- equivalent to an annual expenditure of $1,429 more per person -- drove the nation's healthcare tab up fast and very steeply: while the extra care required for the severely overweight accounted for 6.1% of all medical spending in 1998, it accounted for 9.1% of total spending by 2006, the new study shows.
In the same period, the proportion of Americans with a Body Mass Index of 30 or above grew from 18.3% to 25%.
Most of that increase has come from the rise in treatment costs -- specifically for prescription-drug use -- for the obese. Medications used to treat obesity-related conditions such as high blood pressure and diabetes accounted for the bulk of the increased bill. Treatment of diabetes, for instance, costs $191 billion annually.
"The connection between rising obesity and rising medical spending is undeniable," the authors of the study, published in the journal Health Affairs, concluded.
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No. 39
Old Aug 29, 2009, 07:45 PM

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I loved the clip.....but the reality is that it's true. My dh wouldn't watch it, because he thinks things are just fine the way they are....I keep trying to get him to come to work with me, thinking if he could just see what we see.....
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