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H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009



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No. 40
Old Aug 20, 2009, 11:20 PM

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A very pertinent quote:

What I'm trying to do as I write and speak out against the insurance industry I was a part of for nearly two decades is to inform Americans that when they hear isolated stories of long waiting times to see doctors in Canada and allegations that care in other systems is rationed by "government bureaucrats," someone associated with the insurance industry wrote the original script.
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No. 41
from *ac*
Old Aug 21, 2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by K98 View Post
Wendell is the darling of the socialized medicine crowd. The ONLY darling. He is everywhere...
So are the profit-bloated-insurance-industry, hate-spouting, sometimes gun-carrying, disruptive puppets. Thanks God, there are reasonable voices answering their false, inflammatory accusations.
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No. 42
Old Aug 21, 2009, 07:45 AM

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Where are all the Insurance Companies that make all the profits?

Do you know that Health Insurance Companies pay around $1.25 to $1.40 vs a Medicare Bill. Do you know that Medcaid pays pennies, in my home state we get one rate around $4K for an appendectomy to bone marrow transplant that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars?

The companies I reviewed United, Aetna, and Tenet all made percentage wise an much lower profit than any other business and they pay taxes.

Also for what I have been hearing and reading there are numerous bills, 3 senate and 2 congressional.


What is concerning for me, what I have heard the President speak, one issue is the cancellation of insurance once a person files a claim, I agree that is wrong, but it is only by his numbers, "20,000 over a couple of years" which is 0.005% of the insured to me does require radical reform.

The president also mentioned that a surgeon can bill 3 times for surgery that went wrong, this is also incorrect. A surgeon is paid a global fee and insurance companies often bridge these admission so insurance companies pay once.


I had the displeasure of buying a car during the cash of clunkers program, I did not have a clunker but a normal transaction which talks an hour was stretch to days due to this program. If the government can't handle a small program like this how are they going to do health care ?
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No. 43
from laborer
Old Aug 21, 2009, 09:46 AM

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please...please... click on the link http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6804467.ece
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No. 44
Old Aug 21, 2009, 10:27 AM

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Read this

http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...335rGu_Z3KXoQw

Canada's Health System Imploding.
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No. 45
Old Aug 21, 2009, 10:29 AM

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-army-NHS.html

Obama Care ??
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No. 46
from Stevarius
Old Aug 21, 2009, 10:12 PM

Default Re: Look Here to See What’s in the Health Care Bill
For: Stevarius

I've seen both sides of the arguments and I've seen through the lies and misinformation spread over the bill. I've spent hours pouring over the wording trying to interpret the legislation language within it and I have to say I support it, but if we allowed to GOP to whine and scream like children and get the public option removed, we'd do the American public a huge disservice and wouldn't really accomplish the whole goal of healthcare reform.


I'm not the only one who feels this way: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_265307.html
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No. 47
from CRNA2007
Old Aug 22, 2009, 08:26 AM

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Republicans can stop nothing so it is Democratic infighting that is the problem. And please the Huffington post as a reference.




Originally Posted by Stevarius View Post
For: Stevarius

I've seen both sides of the arguments and I've seen through the lies and misinformation spread over the bill. I've spent hours pouring over the wording trying to interpret the legislation language within it and I have to say I support it, but if we allowed to GOP to whine and scream like children and get the public option removed, we'd do the American public a huge disservice and wouldn't really accomplish the whole goal of healthcare reform.


I'm not the only one who feels this way: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_265307.html
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No. 48
from K98
Old Aug 23, 2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by *ac* View Post
So are the profit-bloated-insurance-industry, hate-spouting, sometimes gun-carrying, disruptive puppets. Thanks God, there are reasonable voices answering their false, inflammatory accusations.
Seems to me that most of the hate is being spouted by the opposition. I guess the "puppets" should ignore the constitution and the government's attempted nationalization of one industry after another.
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No. 49
Old Aug 23, 2009, 09:37 AM

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I have read most of the bill. I have a hard time understanding most of it.

For my job, I have to understand current Federal Documents such as

http://www.federalregister.gov/OFRUp...9-18663_PI.pdf

For the most part I can understand what my insurance company writes and if I don't understand what it is I can call someone.
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