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H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009



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No. 20
from StatBlues
Old Aug 09, 2009, 01:19 PM

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I am only going on what the news, media, and the health care bill say.

We can exchange links till the cows come home.

Guess, we will have to agree to disagree.
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No. 21
from dhammo01
Old Aug 10, 2009, 08:47 AM

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I think you are all putting too much trust into our government.
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No. 22
from UKRNinUSA
Old Aug 10, 2009, 10:16 AM

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Which of the proposed consumer protections do you have a problem with?

"No Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions
Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
No Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays
Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
No Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care
Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
No Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill
Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
No Gender Discrimination
Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
No Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage
Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
Extended Coverage for Young Adults
Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
Guaranteed Insurance Renewal
Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.
"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-ins...r-protections/
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No. 23
Old Aug 10, 2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StatBlues View Post
Everyone has an opinion.
But, seems the Gov does not like that.
It is getting scary out there
Talk about scary !!!
Are we now like in the old days cking for communist? Now ....emailers? What happen to freedom of speech???

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White House steps up health care offensive with a blog that asks supporters to turn in 'fishy' information, sparking Big Brother fears - and outrage.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...olution-obama/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...alth-protests/

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/...ity-organizer/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-52571822.html



http://www.foxnews.com/

I heard one of the Democratic Senators talking about how the people demonstrating against the health care plan were resorting to brown shirt tactics -- and yet they are the ones making enemy lists and asking people to turn in their neighbors. I really do find this very disturbing. I never would have thought ten or fifteen years ago that this would be happening here in America. It does scare me. We have always had the right to disagree with those in authority - no matter who they are.
I wonder now just how far they plan on taking this.


Here's the actual text from the blog page:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Halfway down the page:

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Hmm. Stalinist Russia, anyone?

Also, try redstate.com for another view on the health care situation.
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No. 24
from elkpark
Old Aug 10, 2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerforhim View Post
Here's the actual text from the blog page:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Halfway down the page:

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Hmm. Stalinist Russia, anyone?

Also, try redstate.com for another view on the health care situation.
Stalinist Russia????? Oh, pleeeeeease. They're trying to combat some of the misinformation and negative propoganda floating around out there about the reform proposals. How upset were you when the Shrub administration was operating a widespread, illegal program of monitoring Americans' telephone conversations and emails?
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No. 25
from herring_RN
Old Aug 10, 2009, 04:20 PM

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Link to the bill. It took about two minutes.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...3200ih.txt.pdf
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No. 26
from NC29mom
Old Aug 10, 2009, 06:22 PM

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!!!
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No. 27
from NC29mom
Old Aug 10, 2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UKRNinUSA View Post
Which of the proposed consumer protections do you have a problem with?

"No Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions
Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
No Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays
Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
No Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care
Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
No Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill
Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
No Gender Discrimination
Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
No Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage
Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
Extended Coverage for Young Adults
Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
Guaranteed Insurance Renewal
Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-ins...r-protections/
Of course there are SOME good points to the bill..........................the question is does the GOOD outway the BAD????

In my opinion, I love all of these you have listed, but they are quickly 'thrown to the side' when reading the 'bad' parts of the health care bill. (committe decides what benefits/trmt pt receives, rationed healthcare, physican services through medicaid to be cut (even more), gov't has access to your bank accts, restricted enrollment of special needs pt's, several stipulations on end of life care.............must I go on...........)

It would be great to be able to come to a happy medium, but remember............................this is politics.
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No. 28
Old Aug 10, 2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
Stalinist Russia????? Oh, pleeeeeease. They're trying to combat some of the misinformation and negative propoganda floating around out there about the reform proposals. How upset were you when the Shrub administration was operating a widespread, illegal program of monitoring Americans' telephone conversations and emails?
Actually, I didn't have much of a problem, if it helps get catch terrorists. We are at war, you know.
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No. 29
from nicurn001
Old Aug 10, 2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerforhim View Post
Actually, I didn't have much of a problem, if it helps get catch terrorists. We are at war, you know.
Now there's the rub , can any evidence be provided to show that the program was sucesful .Before you say it ,the lack of any other attacks is not proof , of the sucess of this program . Other countries have been victims of terrorism , they have not used these tactics and have been as sucessful as us , at stopping further attacks .

As to being at war , in all honesty I have hardly noticed ,If you look back to how our countries had to change during previous wars , we have done hardly anything .
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