GOP releases healthcare plan; actual plan not included

if we can find money to kill people, and we do, because we've been at war for 8 years now, then we can find the money to help people and have health care for those who need it.

the excessive government spending didn't just up and start on jan 20, 2009.

Your right, the debt tripled. Troops weren't withdrawn, the effort in Afghanistan was escalated. Bleeding hearts and reacting to healthcare with emotional knee jerk responses is exactly what the gov. wants. So you must be set pretty much with your career. You must not be concerned that future RN's could be facing a salary cap, or just less pay aside from already being overworked. Or, there just won't be the jobs there for them. I could go on all day but, you seem to be emotional when it comes to the self inflicted misfortunes of others. How could anyone possibly convince you that Capitalism is "being not perfect" but, the best thing for hard working Americans and always has been. Maybe you need a catch frase, "yes you can, SAY NO TO SOCIALISM."

self inflicted misfortunes?
nice.
so if you don't have insurance, it's you're fault, and you should suffer.
it's not socialism. it's treating everyone as human beings--not just those who can afford it.

last time i checked, the nurses on this board who live in UHC countries do not make minimum wage or have salary caps. fearmongering doesn't work with me.

You are only hearing what these people want you to know. Having lots of European friends most wont admit there system is wrong. Most don't know any better. Thats what seperates Americans from these countries and people. You are too emotionally involved with the misfortunes of others, this will lead you to make irrational decisions based on liberal rhetoric that is in fact nothing but pure socialism. You need to lay off CNN, stop believing everything the CNC says and let Capitalism continue to prosper. Making hard working Americans suffer for a handfull of people who have CHOSEN not to get health insurance is being very selfish and ultimately shows a high level of feelgoodism. Please go back and read the Constitution of the United States of America.

i am a hard working american who just went without health insurance and paid for COBRA for four months because pregnancy is considered a pre-existing condition.
the misfortune is not only of others. just because i am a nurse does not mean i am exempt.
a handful is a gross understatement.

ignorance must truly be bliss.

Yes, I have had to pay COBRA before as well, still no excuse. You attempt to rationalize Universal Healthcare with a COBRA statement is in no way a reason to do away with our current system. So the four months absolutely did you in? You did not return to work? Your observation has nothing to do with the bigger picture. Ignorance is truely ignorance. Emotional ramblings about a subject in which you know nothing about and only have a reference to your own COBRA stent does not "even hardly" make you a scholar of Universal Healthcare. Taking away from hardworking "legal" Americans b/c you think that you have been done wrong b/c you paid 4 months of Cobra is well, selfish.

You say that it' selfish to take "away from hardworking "legal" Americans" because they are interested in Universal Healthcare. I don't think that's the case at all, I think proponents of UHC want it because they think it will control costs, provide a more equal system and be better for the country all together. I wouldn't assume that all the people who want Universal Health Care in this country are all "bleeding hearts" any more than I would assume that people who support the 2nd amendment are all card carrying members of the NRA. You say that you have lots of European friends and they "won't admit there system is wrong". Perhaps it's because, they don't believe it be "wrong".

For the record, the health care reforms being discussed in Washington are not "socialist". The details are still forthcoming but no one has seriously discussed pushing the private sector out of business.

And Capiltalism does prosper, even after GM's bankruptcy the private sector still holds 99.79% of corporate and business assets. We shouldn't run for the hills just yet.

You evidently didn't read my post through. Europeans I said "they won't admit it is wrong or either don't kow anybetter." You see you already don't know anybetter which makes you a perfect example of the type of person that would want UHC. You are obviously another Liberal who has even pulled out the 2nd amendment hate card. You truly may even hate your own country, am I right? You just labeled a few million people with your comment. Your thinking and people who share your mentality will be the end of Capitalism. And, your remark concerning GM, fascinating.... Lay off CNN, try not to become so emotionally involved in what you do not understand. Let "encourage" America continue to operate as a Capitalist state and maybe you children or you childrens children will not pay for you mistakes and foronic mentality.

Yes, I have had to pay COBRA before as well, still no excuse. You attempt to rationalize Universal Healthcare with a COBRA statement is in no way a reason to do away with our current system. So the four months absolutely did you in? You did not return to work? Your observation has nothing to do with the bigger picture. Ignorance is truely ignorance. Emotional ramblings about a subject in which you know nothing about and only have a reference to your own COBRA stent does not "even hardly" make you a scholar of Universal Healthcare. Taking away from hardworking "legal" Americans b/c you think that you have been done wrong b/c you paid 4 months of Cobra is well, selfish.