Country's with socialized medicine vs the USA (Personal Income Tax)

Ummm....if you are hit by a bus in the US, need to be on life-support, spend two months in the ICU, you WILL go into bankruptcy unless you are independently wealthy.....I know a woman who is financially ruined due to an ICU stay of a month due to pneumonia. I know another man who is bankrupt because he had to put his wife into a nursing home, and all
'extra' income goes to same nursing home.......

As to tax rates.....we get what we pay for, don't we? If we as a society are not going to pay for services, we won't get them. I, too, am good with paying more in taxes (as long as those richer than I are paying more than I am, which currently they are generally NOT doing now) to ensure that someone doesn't have to go bankrupt to get the care they need. Greed and wealth at the expense of everyone else does not sit well with me, so I do not see an issue with limiting corporations and what they can make off of everyone else......

Are you serious? How about we take a look at socialized education. Government sckrewls are failing and every year tax payers are forced to dump more money into them. What do we get in return? A bunch of idiots who could not identify Afghanistan on a map much less do simple algebra or even name who their senators or congressmen are. It is PATHETIC. Private schools are far superior to socialized education.

What about the socialized USPS? It is a bumbling and hopeless system. What is their solution? Again demand more money. Take a look at private industry; DHL for example... They run circles around these ass clowns.

Spending more money is not always the answer. Look at what BO did with this spending bill. Yeah that has helped a lot. Unemployment is even higher than before, though we were told spending money we didn't have would drop unemployment and create jobs. What is the next brilliant solution? Hell, lets spend some more money (that we don't have).

Everything the government gets their hands on turns to crap. Having a socialized healthcare system would be no different. This country has gone without UHC for almost 230 years, why is the current POTUS acting like it is some kind of national emergency now? Carrying out this plan only feeds in to a society of entitlement. It is a redistribution of wealth that robs the liberties and freedoms of those that are achievers and gives it to someone else. There are other options that have been offered yet they have been grossly ignored.

I know a patient who's been in the hospital since January. She's on State medicaid. No NH will take her because she's dialysis dependent and has a trach. A trach she takes care of by herself. Another state will take her but the State she lives in won't pay that NH. They would rather pay the hospital for her care.

Citing people who aren't getting care is fruitless, because for every case you can site many of us can site people getting care.

What needs to be done is to reduce the COST of healthcare in the US. Never mind who pays for it. Make it affordable for every one.

Please don't compare us to France. Most French people have private insurance so they don't have to go to state run hospitals or wait for care. So it's not an equal system. Those who can afford it can get it quicker and better. So they are not getting free care they are paying excess taxes and paying for private insurance.

Please name me a premium Cancer Center in France. I can name you one in the USA. Sloan Kettering in NYC.

I am with you 100%. I am amazed at the GULLIBILITY of those that have succumbed to the BRAINWASHING of Republican Talking Heads/Big Insurance/Big Pharma and continue to support ideas that are totally AGAINST their own interests for fear of some IMAGINARY socialist monster.
WAKE UP -embrace the FACTS and don't spoil it for all the rest of us that want to stop getting screwed over by the current system -PLEASE!!!!!!

Oh, so because your FIL has been to Australia and says it "does not compare to these United States", that makes it fact?

You have insurance and won't go broke, so you don't care if others who do not have insurance do, apparently.

Clearly there is no point arguing with you, because .. well... you are ignorant. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Oh, so because your FIL has been to Australia and says it "does not compare to these United States", that makes it fact?

"The beacon of freedom for all the world"?

"The gold standard among free peoples"?

Are you, actually, insane? Who says things like that??!! You really need to get out of the US and see outside these shores to get a realistic view of life.

Clearly there is no point arguing with you, because .. well.... I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, as the saying goes.