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No. 10
Old Oct 29, 2009, 05:43 PM

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Hang in there prasier !! I used to get dumped on all the time for not " sending" the kids home.
Just a couple of weeks ago I overheard a women at my church complaining of the school nurse not sending a child home for having the sniffles and a cough. I replied" If that school nurse sent every child home with a sniffle and cough than the whole school would be empty " !
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No. 11
Old Oct 29, 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rdsxfnrn View Post
ok need to vent..... had a kid come here today with s/a. i know immediately that she is full of it, no temp, no signs of distress except forced crying. back to class she goes........... so bout a 1/2 later, there she is again with her para. para proceeds to tell me how sick she is and that she " should have been sent home." so, what do i do? i sent her home. all the while i am thinking if she has such good assessment skills, what do they need me here for??????? i guess i am being cautious because the same thing happened the other day cept the girl went back to class and vomited.......... so i guess i am asking for opinions here........... should i have stood my ground and showed the para the "guidelines," or should do what i did....... just shut up and send them home to keep peace............. tell ya tho.......... she really made me ANGRY! there feel much better........
I DO always make it a point to tell the parent that I recommended student stay in class but "Mr. or Mrs. so and so keeps sending them back". If they want to make that decision well then they need to own it and face the consequence. Some parents have gotten a little upset at them and told me to send them back to class! Then, I write a note "parent agrees with my assessment and requests the student stay in school"
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No. 12
Old Oct 31, 2009, 10:10 AM

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I love these posts. Only in my 2nd year as a school nurse, it is so nice to know I am not alone dealing with the teachers and administrators-who seem to know more about nursing than I do-according to them...! Thank You All !!!
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No. 13
from sara610
Old Nov 01, 2009, 08:10 AM

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Not only do I deal with teachers that know more than I do, the custodian at my school will call parents (if she knows them) to let them know that their kid is sick or in the clinic. Talk about FRUSTRATING!!!
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No. 14
Old Nov 02, 2009, 11:42 AM

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Boy, that is one part of school nursing I do NOT miss! The crowning indignity at my old school was to have the special ed teacher ( who had a nurse IN HER ROOM just for the special ed kids) send an aide up with a little girl, plop her on my couch, and say "She has a fever, she's going home." No name, no mention if anyone had been called.....and no fever when I checked her.

So, here I have a child who can not tell me her name, who is not sick, and who I know nothing about in my health room. I called the nurse to tell her the child was afebrile, and the teacher took the phone away and told me that she didn't care, she didn't want her in the classroom.

Couple weeks later, I am in the office in conference, and an aide from the special ed room stands in the door yelling "YooHoo! YooHoo! We need a temp check!"

We walk to my health room, where I have 2 waiting (who knew to go to the office if I was not there). This aide proceeds to mouth off that I needed to be down here taking care of my kids. I asked her if the special ed nurse was not there, and she said that she was. They just didn't have a thermometer in the room.

Well, the secretary got wind of this, and she had told me in the past that I was not to see those children (they DID have their own nurse, after all), so she told the supervising nurse, who told the OTHER nurse that they were not to send me those children, that she needed to do her job.

The teacher came down and yelled at me that I didn't get to choose who I saw and that If I didn't want to do my job (THAT was a laugh) that we would discuss it with the superintendent. Of course, since the super was the one that made the call about me NOT being supposed to see the kids, I never really gave it much credence. Hated that woman from then on, though. I know it's not Christian, but there it is.

Horrible school. And they wonder why I quit.
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No. 15
from rdsxfnrn
Old Nov 03, 2009, 08:32 AM

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thx schoolnursebsn.............. excellent idea..... will make a form letter for that now!
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No. 16
from Artistyc1
Old Nov 04, 2009, 01:57 PM

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I've had a very frustrating day! I had a child with a "runny nose". In the classroom is an aide that doesn't understand that this alone is NOT a reason to send a child home, just because "that's what she would do!". As I have dealt with this child for the past 5 years, and she barely knows him, I let her know that this child ALWAYS has a runny nose. There are reasons that he can't take medications for it that I am aware of, but SHE is NOT! Kept bugging me all day about it. The child has a single mother, working hard, that I am am well aware will lose her job if too much time is taken, and due to other issues with this child, a lot of time is already "necessary time off "for her. The classroom aide has an 11 year old, only child, that she stays home with for the "sniffles", but not everyone has jobs that allow for this sort of thing. I have had problems with this aide before, and I can't convince her that I don't expect to always be correct in my assessments, but I AM responsible to make the decisions. I do take our para's concerns into consideration, but don't necessarily make my decisions based upon their opinions. Thus, it means "I don't listen to them". GRRRR......
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No. 17
from bandaider
Old Nov 10, 2009, 05:17 PM

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Oh, these replies crack me up! just recently I was allowed to speak to the teachers at a staff meeting and had to tell these college-degreed professionals that :
1. It is not cool to send a kid to the nurse office to take a nap. I do not run a sleep-on-demand office. if a kid is lethargic, can't stay awake...it is a symptom of something.
2.DON'T let them sleep on the floor of an empty class room, either. Why are they so tired? Overdose? Brain Aneurysm?

And THEY are they ones questioning My judgement?? Give me a break!
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No. 18
Old Nov 10, 2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Artistyc1 View Post
I've had a very frustrating day! I had a child with a "runny nose". In the classroom is an aide that doesn't understand that this alone is NOT a reason to send a child home, just because "that's what she would do!". As I have dealt with this child for the past 5 years, and she barely knows him, I let her know that this child ALWAYS has a runny nose. There are reasons that he can't take medications for it that I am aware of, but SHE is NOT! Kept bugging me all day about it. The child has a single mother, working hard, that I am am well aware will lose her job if too much time is taken, and due to other issues with this child, a lot of time is already "necessary time off "for her. The classroom aide has an 11 year old, only child, that she stays home with for the "sniffles", but not everyone has jobs that allow for this sort of thing. I have had problems with this aide before, and I can't convince her that I don't expect to always be correct in my assessments, but I AM responsible to make the decisions. I do take our para's concerns into consideration, but don't necessarily make my decisions based upon their opinions. Thus, it means "I don't listen to them". GRRRR......

Many of the parents I work work are struggling to make ends meet and missing work is a big problem for them. This is where, we as nurses tend to look at the overall needs of a family and other staff members only look at one aspect. Being at school as much as possible IS the best scenario for most children and their families!!
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