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- by caregiver1977 Apr 22What do you do when it is the disabled student who is bullying students and teachers? I find plenty of information about disabled students being bullied, but what happens when it is the other way around? What do you do when they have one of these special plans?
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- Apr 22 by FlareThe disabled student, whether they have a 504 or an IEP, does not have carte blanche to act however they please. I think a lot of the parents don't get this fact and so much time is spent supporting the child and rewarding them that the word "No" is almost never uttered so when the child does start acting out, it becomes quite the issue. In short - i've seen this before. The idea that this child couldn't possibly be capable of saying cruel things or doing wicked things is just not a possibility in their minds. Sometimes it stems from behaviors related to their disability, sometimes it's just pure boundary testing and sometimes it's a clear cut case of troubled peer or teacher relations. Either way, the 504 or IEP does not exempt this child from receiving consequences in line with what the general population of students would get in the same situation. Sure, maybe it isn't appropriate to assign the exact same disciplines, such as a detention or in school suspension, but then a behavior plan needs to be adopted post haste and enforced.
- Apr 22 by JustBeachyNurseThree letters: FBA and BIP. If the bullying is a manifestation of the disability then agreed alternative discipline needs to be determined. Often the child study team can complete a FBA (functional behavior assessment) and develop a BIP (Behavior Improvement/Implementation Plan) into the 504/IEP which assesses if there are social deficits, relationship issues, specific triggers and unintended rewards for "bad behavior". Sometimes if the proper antecedent can be found the behavior can be stopped before it escalates. The other end is the BIP will detail not only triggers, ways to dissipate the behavior but positive reinforcement rewards and specific consequences for negative behaviors.
- Apr 22 by OldDudeYea, good luck with discipline of such a student. This is my 11th year as a school nurse and I've yet to see an administrator "go there." I've been struck, kicked, bitten, had chairs, pencils, computer monitors thrown at me, etc, etc,... and there was never a "punishment" put in place. Given the same behavior by a general ed student and criminal assault charges and suspention or expulsion would occur.
- Apr 23 by caregiver1977Thank you. The info I have received from the three of you is more than I have found by asking questions or searching the Internet. I was honestly told, and I quote "Well, if the child has a 504 there is nothing we can do." I asked "well, what if this child seriously injuries another child?" The person told me, "It still wouldn't matter; the injuried child would probably end up in more trouble than the child with the 504." I was told that even if charges were filed at the police station, that nothing would STILL be done!
I just find this so hard to believe, especially since we live in a country with so much school emphasis on anti-bullying. How can this be happening?
- Apr 23 by mmc51264I think a lot of the parents don't get this fact and so much time is spent supporting the child and rewarding them that the word "No" is almost never uttered so when the child does start acting out, it becomes quite the issue. In short - i've seen this before. The idea that this child couldn't possibly be capable of saying cruel things or doing wicked things is just not a possibility in their minds.
I am a former teacher, parent of a disabled child and a nurse, albeit, not a school nurse. Kudos to school nurses, I could NEVER do it.
- Apr 24 by NutmeggeRNOh yeah! Had a kid whose bigget disability was his mother....when things did not go his way, she was on the phone with OCR-office of civics rights......she wanted every excuse accommodation known to man.....guess where he lives now? He is a guest of the State Dept of Corrections.....and we are all paying for It!
- Apr 25 by Flarei've seen that as a recurring pattern, just as i've seen a lot of recurring patterns in special ed. I've had parents come in and challenge me because i've had the audacity to (gasp) give their child a visual acuity screening. but i digress.
I agree, that the source of WHY the behavior is occuring does need to be sought out. As I stated earlier, perhaps it is behavior, and related to their disability. Perhaps there is an underlying medical issue that needs to be addressed. These things have been typically addressed in my experiences, but I know are often not condsidered in all cases and in every district.
- Apr 26 by MorganalefeyJust this week, my school had a child (with an IEP and several diagnoses) receive an in school suspension for being violent. After his suspension ended, there was another violent incident, and he has now lost his recess for the rest of the year.
He is a 4th grader.
So, my school, at least, will discipline kids like this.